Aberdeen-2

[Asturias56]

I don't want to get into a slanging match with Always looking up but whilst it is true that "We have easy access to plenty of golf courses, castles and distilleries, as well as world renowned Royal Deeside and the Cairgorms." that's not how the rest of the UK, never mind the World - sees it. Looking at a map Aberdeen looks quite a ways from Cairngorm whereas Inverness looks much closer. then a lot of tourists want to do Edinburgh as well.

The other attractions aren't too much different from any other medium sized UK City - Dundee has a National (well,,, a branch of a National) Museum and ABZ? Not much TBH. Plus it's still an expensive place to stay or hire a car compared to other places in Scotland. It has no reputation as a foodie spot nor a clubbing center and I doubt you get many Hen parties heading there for the weekend.

It IS possible to turn a City round - Newcastle or Leeds anyone? - but it takes time. The best thing for Aberdeen would be to leverage the skills associated with the oil in things like business, IT and light engineering but I suspect that everyone takes the easy route when the oil price goes up and defaults back to working for the oil companies rather than looking for other business.......

[LesPretend]

Don’t think there is any doubt that the city itself is on the up, but that’s not driving demand for air travel here just yet. You only have to look at the lack of replacements on the Frankfurt route to see that.

Will be interesting to to see what effect the bypass has. The traffic situation in Dundee might drive the affluent eastern suburbs and Angus travellers up to Aberdeen. TBH it’s an attractive option if you take the car, but daft as it may sound driving north to travel south is always difficult to get people’s head round regardless of how attractive it is.

Problem will be the default action of greed surrounding anything to do with ABZ. Parking will go up, fares will go up. Years of cashing in is difficult to let go of.

[Asturias56]

Why would you drive from Dundee to ABZ and not GLA or EDI??

Is the bypass open over the river yet???

[xraydice]

Originally Posted by Asturias56

Why would you drive from Dundee to ABZ and not GLA or EDI??

Is the bypass open over the river yet???

Not yet, but was promised by Christmas ( but which one ) latest is maybe the end of the year , maybe.

[Richard Taylor]

A few of my colleagues have been on the bypass & say it is excellent. However whether it tempts anyone up to the airport from Dundee direction I am rather more sceptical.

[xraydice]

An update on the AWPR missing link, transport minister reports not my Christmas ," Boots on the bridge " recon end of Jan2019 if lucky.
As an aside, flew out of Inverness yesterday to London, from my home 30 mins north of ABZ the trip to Dalcros was 25 mins longer than to ABZ , but the whole experience was worth it smooth, pleasant and friendly

[5711N0205W]

On the LCY now via NCL is there a requirement to de-plane in Newcastle or do you get to stay on board for the turnaround?

[CabinCrewe]

oh that would really be the death of it if you had to get off in that short turn around

[5711N0205W]

As it happens flybe are so much cheaper on the required dates than any other carrier that LHR T2 it is.

[fjencl]

Aberdeen airport bosses in talks to replace London flight...


https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...ace-air-route/

[Richard Taylor]

“While we do not have a replacement at this moment in time, we are talking with airlines to find a positive solution.”

Hmmmmmm…………………………….

[CabinCrewe]

Seems to be boom (and bust?) for Loganair so maybe they could squeeze yet another rotation out of an old Embraer?

[Callum Johnstone]

With EZY off the route perhaps the economics for a return of a BA flight to LGW look more attractive.

[M-JCS]

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

Seems to be boom (and bust?) for Loganair so maybe they could squeeze yet another rotation out of an old Embraer?

Except that LGW fees make use of a small(ish) aircraft economically unfeasible. Recall that's what originally caused Flybe to leave LGW.

[Richard Taylor]

FlyV

With the news breaking re Flybe/Stobart & Virgin, any potential knock-on effects for their ABZ base, or routes - good or bad?

[Mister Geezer]

Well I personally can't see it as being bad for Aberdeen. It can only strengthen the longevity of keeping LHR going and reinforcing links to MAN. It remains to be seen just how hub centric the new business will be and hopefully not at the expense of still linking the regions.

I suspect airport management in the likes of CWL and DSA that are Embraer bases, will perhaps have more to give them concern about than their peers in ABZ, should a rethink result in the most capacity being focused on feeding the hubs.

BTW the Flybe brand will disappear and will become Connect Airways. The article in the link below repeatedly states that improving connectivity to Heathrow and Manchester will be paramount.

Business Traveller - Flybe brand to disappear as Virgin Atlantic and Stobart Group agree takeover

[Jim__]

KLM back up to 5 flights per day in May and June to Schipol, according to today's Evening Express.

An extra departure from ABZ at 12.40.

[nighthawk117]

Originally Posted by Mister Geezer

BTW the Flybe brand will disappear and will become Connect Airways.

As per the article you linked to, it is to be called "Virgin Atlantic". Connect Airways is the legal business name, in the same way BA is owned by International Airlines Group.

[CaptainDoony]

Originally Posted by Jim__

KLM back up to 5 flights per day in May and June to Schipol, according to today's Evening Express.

An extra departure from ABZ at 12.40.

Also one of the daily 737-700 rotations being upgauged to a 737-800 so a bump in capacity there too

[BAladdy]

T3 on 7th January made the following changes to the schedule for there there flights to MME and HUY.

Monday to Thursday

HUY - 3 x daily direct frequency has been replaced with a 2 x daily direct service and a daily frequency via MME. J41 aircraft has been replaced with a ER4

MME - 3 x daily J41 service has been replaced with a 2 x daily J41 and daily ER4 service.

Friday

HUY - 2 x daily direct frequency has been replaced with a daily direct service and a daily frequency via MME. J41 aircraft has been replaced with a ER4

MME - 2 x daily J41 service has been replaced with a daily J41 and daily ER4 service.

Sunday

HUY - S2000 op service via MME has been replaced with a direct AT7 operated service. Aircraft ops ABZ-HUY-NWI-HUY-ABZ

MME - S2000 replaced with a J41.