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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...iness-44821709
Wonder what is behind this? Maybe she just feels it's the natural end of a cycle & time to do something else. Maybe.
Wonder what is behind this? Maybe she just feels it's the natural end of a cycle & time to do something else. Maybe.
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Suggestions there is a new 'structure' coming at AGS & she wasn't happy about it.
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...ss-steps-down/
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Interesting movement inbound in the next hour from across the pond:
N767MW (B762), GTI 7755 from Moline, IL.
Wonder what it's here for - maybe picking up the businessmen deposited by the Trump 757 that came in Fri with POTUS son Eck, who was playing a round (of golf!) at Menie.
Or related to The Open taking place at Carnoustie this week.
N767MW (B762), GTI 7755 from Moline, IL.
Wonder what it's here for - maybe picking up the businessmen deposited by the Trump 757 that came in Fri with POTUS son Eck, who was playing a round (of golf!) at Menie.
Or related to The Open taking place at Carnoustie this week.
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Interesting movement inbound in the next hour from across the pond:
N767MW (B762), GTI 7755 from Moline, IL.
Wonder what it's here for - maybe picking up the businessmen deposited by the Trump 757 that came in Fri with POTUS son Eck, who was playing a round (of golf!) at Menie.
Or related to The Open taking place at Carnoustie this week.
N767MW (B762), GTI 7755 from Moline, IL.
Wonder what it's here for - maybe picking up the businessmen deposited by the Trump 757 that came in Fri with POTUS son Eck, who was playing a round (of golf!) at Menie.
Or related to The Open taking place at Carnoustie this week.
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Although obviously unsuitable for a B762, I hear a lot of biz jets will be using DND this week for the golf.
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Interesting movement inbound in the next hour from across the pond:
N767MW (B762), GTI 7755 from Moline, IL.
Wonder what it's here for - maybe picking up the businessmen deposited by the Trump 757 that came in Fri with POTUS son Eck, who was playing a round (of golf!) at Menie.
Or related to The Open taking place at Carnoustie this week.
N767MW (B762), GTI 7755 from Moline, IL.
Wonder what it's here for - maybe picking up the businessmen deposited by the Trump 757 that came in Fri with POTUS son Eck, who was playing a round (of golf!) at Menie.
Or related to The Open taking place at Carnoustie this week.
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Red Arras in town. Maybe searching for a new home now RAF Scampton is being sold off.... plenty room here these days... 
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...rhead-tonight/
Should be displaying up at Peterhead about now.
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Should be displaying up at Peterhead about now.
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Some restoration of lost rotations rather than anything significant, but welcome nonetheless.
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MD's last interview
Carol Benzie was interviewed before she stepped down last week, & she said some very sobering but realistic things about trying to entice airlines to ABZ. Perhaps things we know already:
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...y-flying-high/
1. We - and the airport - still more or less wholly reliant on the oil price to increase business traffic (one wonders where the diversification is, eg. inbound tourism - we are still relying on the business offering);
2. Catchment area insufficient to expect routes to here, there & everywhere (& of course many airlines & routes have come & gone over the years);
3. Looks like the loss of Lufthansa was the biggest blow, but if things pick up again she doesn't rule out them returning some day.... I doubt it myself.
I know the things she said we all likely knew already, but I thought it was an interesting insight nevertheless.
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...y-flying-high/
1. We - and the airport - still more or less wholly reliant on the oil price to increase business traffic (one wonders where the diversification is, eg. inbound tourism - we are still relying on the business offering);
2. Catchment area insufficient to expect routes to here, there & everywhere (& of course many airlines & routes have come & gone over the years);
3. Looks like the loss of Lufthansa was the biggest blow, but if things pick up again she doesn't rule out them returning some day.... I doubt it myself.
I know the things she said we all likely knew already, but I thought it was an interesting insight nevertheless.
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"The simple fact is we don’t have enough people living here to justify a low-cost carrier coming in more than they do. They need to fill that aircraft to 96% plus every single time it flies, so in 200-seater aircraft you are looking at 180 people plus every time.We do try really hard but we are up against it as you have European airports all around the place pitching for an aircraft but they might have a population of two million within driving distance of the airport and we have only got 500,000.“It puts us way down the pecking order.”
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Aberdeen doesn’t have the long term market for Ryanair at 189 seats, they have to juggle and run seasonal on destinations to keep things fresh and in demand.
As 73max and A321neo becomes the norm the ability to fill becomes more difficult @200+ and the aircraft efficiency cannot compensate enough, you then lose the carrier.
The saving for Aberdeen may be one or all the following:
C series / A220 = a right size very efficient aircraft that makes money on lengthy sectors at 125+ seats.
A Mid East carrier (Preferably Etihad or Qatar) coming in with A321LR.
US carrier (Jet Blue) to JFK with A321LR and connections into their network.
Ignoring Brexit and any freedom to travel issues that may arise.
Issue for the long term. In addition the O&G tied market is Aberdeen’s short runway, to me it’s a scandal that the full 300 yards wasn’t laid (it should have been 500) but the owners at the time - Heathrow Holdings - were never due conflict of interest going to let anybody fly any distance direct from Aberdeen other than to Tenerife.
As 73max and A321neo becomes the norm the ability to fill becomes more difficult @200+ and the aircraft efficiency cannot compensate enough, you then lose the carrier.
The saving for Aberdeen may be one or all the following:
C series / A220 = a right size very efficient aircraft that makes money on lengthy sectors at 125+ seats.
A Mid East carrier (Preferably Etihad or Qatar) coming in with A321LR.
US carrier (Jet Blue) to JFK with A321LR and connections into their network.
Ignoring Brexit and any freedom to travel issues that may arise.
Issue for the long term. In addition the O&G tied market is Aberdeen’s short runway, to me it’s a scandal that the full 300 yards wasn’t laid (it should have been 500) but the owners at the time - Heathrow Holdings - were never due conflict of interest going to let anybody fly any distance direct from Aberdeen other than to Tenerife.
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Seems the airport owners are keeping them from public view. Mind you I don't think AGS publish GLA figures either now. Read into that what you will. Fixed wing overall had been positive of late, but some routes and freqs have been lost since then.
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Oh dear................
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...ce-last-april/
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...ast-last-year/
Loss of Lufthansa & Icelandair (Air Iceland) will take a toll for a while I would think. It's still oil or nothing...………..
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...ast-last-year/
Loss of Lufthansa & Icelandair (Air Iceland) will take a toll for a while I would think. It's still oil or nothing...………..