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Regarding the night time movements I would have thought that it was the least of the airport authorities concerns at the moment. They will need all the landing fees they can get at the moment.
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I suppose when it is impossible to social distance on an aircraft why even try at the airport
Actually the odd passenger does try.
Meanwhile the airports propaganda machine likes to paint a different picture. Note the guy puts his mask on and then walks away from the terminal. He goes to self check-in to check-in a carry on bag then goes to a closed security lane with no staff. Also all the staff members seen in the film are wearing masks while in reality most don’t. The other giveaway is that he is far to smart looking to be a passenger at Luton.
Actually the odd passenger does try.
Meanwhile the airports propaganda machine likes to paint a different picture. Note the guy puts his mask on and then walks away from the terminal. He goes to self check-in to check-in a carry on bag then goes to a closed security lane with no staff. Also all the staff members seen in the film are wearing masks while in reality most don’t. The other giveaway is that he is far to smart looking to be a passenger at Luton.
Last edited by LTNman; 6th Aug 2020 at 07:42.
Flew through LTN for the first time in months about 10 days ago. I’d be lying if I said I was impressed with the way it was handled, both by WZZ and the airport.
-A perfect opportunity to social distance, yet everyone hoarded into two security lanes.
-Norhing open in the airport apart from Boots and a couple of eateries. Nothing landside.
-The incessant need for airlines to start boarding before an aircraft even arrives on the gate (this pandemic is the perfect opportunity to stop people standing at gate areas 45-60m before departure).
-No hand sanitizer on board, soap in the bathrooms only, despite mods being approved recently for the installation of them in cabins.
-A full service on board available inc alcohol, despite other airlines minimising this.
-Many people including airport staff not wearing their masks properly.
-Social distancing observed to a point in the queues, but busy flights still like a free for all.
-A perfect opportunity to social distance, yet everyone hoarded into two security lanes.
-Norhing open in the airport apart from Boots and a couple of eateries. Nothing landside.
-The incessant need for airlines to start boarding before an aircraft even arrives on the gate (this pandemic is the perfect opportunity to stop people standing at gate areas 45-60m before departure).
-No hand sanitizer on board, soap in the bathrooms only, despite mods being approved recently for the installation of them in cabins.
-A full service on board available inc alcohol, despite other airlines minimising this.
-Many people including airport staff not wearing their masks properly.
-Social distancing observed to a point in the queues, but busy flights still like a free for all.
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Flew through LTN for the first time in months about 10 days ago. I’d be lying if I said I was impressed with the way it was handled, both by WZZ and the airport.
-A perfect opportunity to social distance, yet everyone hoarded into two security lanes.
-Norhing open in the airport apart from Boots and a couple of eateries. Nothing landside.
-The incessant need for airlines to start boarding before an aircraft even arrives on the gate (this pandemic is the perfect opportunity to stop people standing at gate areas 45-60m before departure).
-No hand sanitizer on board, soap in the bathrooms only, despite mods being approved recently for the installation of them in cabins.
-A full service on board available inc alcohol, despite other airlines minimising this.
-Many people including airport staff not wearing their masks properly.
-Social distancing observed to a point in the queues, but busy flights still like a free for all.
-A perfect opportunity to social distance, yet everyone hoarded into two security lanes.
-Norhing open in the airport apart from Boots and a couple of eateries. Nothing landside.
-The incessant need for airlines to start boarding before an aircraft even arrives on the gate (this pandemic is the perfect opportunity to stop people standing at gate areas 45-60m before departure).
-No hand sanitizer on board, soap in the bathrooms only, despite mods being approved recently for the installation of them in cabins.
-A full service on board available inc alcohol, despite other airlines minimising this.
-Many people including airport staff not wearing their masks properly.
-Social distancing observed to a point in the queues, but busy flights still like a free for all.
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What difference does it make? Both are allowed at the moment. It is currently these passengers on jollies which are keeping some airlines afloat. BA Cityflyer are only operating holiday routes.
Regarding the complaints, there is no problem with only having soap in bathrooms. It is better to wash your hands with soap and water than sanitize them. Nothing open other than a couple of eateries? most of the time there isn't anything else other than a World Duty Free shop anyway. Without the high spending asian tourists these shops will be the last to open.
As for alcohol sales onboard, very few are restricting it other than for their own cost cutting purposes - nearly all airlines continue to serve alcohol in business/first class.
Regarding the complaints, there is no problem with only having soap in bathrooms. It is better to wash your hands with soap and water than sanitize them. Nothing open other than a couple of eateries? most of the time there isn't anything else other than a World Duty Free shop anyway. Without the high spending asian tourists these shops will be the last to open.
As for alcohol sales onboard, very few are restricting it other than for their own cost cutting purposes - nearly all airlines continue to serve alcohol in business/first class.
most of the time there isn't anything else other than a World Duty Free shop anyway.
Without the high spending asian tourists these shops will be the last to open.
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Aircraft deep cleaning at Luton
A video has popped up on Youtube where someone has travelled out on seats 32a and 32b from Luton to Malaga via Wizz and travelled back on the same aircraft 8 days later in seats 33a and 33b. She has filmed on both legs of the flight what looks a can of coke spray that his hit the ceiling and questions whether the aircraft has had even one deep clean at Luton which is meant to happen nightly.
Video here. Watch from around 1:15 sec
The Wizz spin machine including video of their aircraft being cleaned including areas passengers would not normally touch.
Another Wizz BS claim
The Luton reality including side by side queuing.
Wizz BS video with plenty of passenger space
The Luton outbound flight
Video here. Watch from around 1:15 sec
The Wizz spin machine including video of their aircraft being cleaned including areas passengers would not normally touch.
Another Wizz BS claim
The Luton reality including side by side queuing.
Wizz BS video with plenty of passenger space
The Luton outbound flight
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Unscientific I know but the airport seems quite busy. Mid term car park looks full, both multi stories well patronised. Long term car park reopened and quite high traffic volumes heading into and out of the airport.
Many destinations only started up again at the start of August. It's very similar to the normal start of the summer schedule when most 'leisure' routes operate full out and empty back. The opposite happens at the end of the season. The only difference here is that it's happening at the start of August rather than the start of April. Now if the government would lift their pointless quarantine restrictions from most of Spain/Portugal you'd see the loads higher again. Most destinations that don't have quarantine seem to be operating 90%+ outbound.
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4,509 new COVID-19 cases in Spain on Friday. That trend has continued since early August, doubling each week. Pointless quarantine on the return from Spain? With the number asymptomatics carrying the virus, COVID Zero is just a dream. Try telling those that have spent the last 4 months in virtual hiding, that a quarantine is pointless.
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The airlines are ignoring the Spanish situation and are carrying on regardless despite the government advice not to travel. Passengers definitely have a different mindset when travelling through Luton of virus what virus and so do the airlines and airport authority.
Practices have not changed of calling passengers to the gates even before the aircraft has arrived. Flights are not spread out evenly throughout the day to reduce peaks. Pre boarding waiting areas are still packed out with the overflow backing up on staircases. Remote stands are still being used using overcrowded buses. Boarding is done as quickly as possible.
On arrival back at Luton long queues form for border force and baggage belts share multiple flights while others are empty.
What I see everyday is a scandal of epic proportions of blatant non compliance of any social distancing requirements because it is not possible at Luton. The airlines and the airport like to paint a different picture with their interviews and social media videos but it is all lies.
As for the few passengers with concerns, they have no control of the situations they find themselves in as they are processed through the airport in an unsafe way. The photos of passengers boarding a Wizz flight a few posts back is the final stage of their airport experience where any inhibitions have been removed from their mindset by the very process of getting passengers to the plane.
Practices have not changed of calling passengers to the gates even before the aircraft has arrived. Flights are not spread out evenly throughout the day to reduce peaks. Pre boarding waiting areas are still packed out with the overflow backing up on staircases. Remote stands are still being used using overcrowded buses. Boarding is done as quickly as possible.
On arrival back at Luton long queues form for border force and baggage belts share multiple flights while others are empty.
What I see everyday is a scandal of epic proportions of blatant non compliance of any social distancing requirements because it is not possible at Luton. The airlines and the airport like to paint a different picture with their interviews and social media videos but it is all lies.
As for the few passengers with concerns, they have no control of the situations they find themselves in as they are processed through the airport in an unsafe way. The photos of passengers boarding a Wizz flight a few posts back is the final stage of their airport experience where any inhibitions have been removed from their mindset by the very process of getting passengers to the plane.
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May I politely suggest that rather than moaning on here, you report your very serious concerns to the airport authorities/CAA/Government/HSE etc etc. who might be able to do something about them.
I'm not having a go, but looking at some of your previous posts you don't seem to have a good word to say about LTN. Makes me wonder why you stick around if its so bad...?
And I must say there do seem to be far to many anti-airport posts these days and the thread feels like its lost the essence of what I used to enjoy reading..
I'm not having a go, but looking at some of your previous posts you don't seem to have a good word to say about LTN. Makes me wonder why you stick around if its so bad...?
And I must say there do seem to be far to many anti-airport posts these days and the thread feels like its lost the essence of what I used to enjoy reading..
The airlines are ignoring the Spanish situation and are carrying on regardless despite the government advice not to travel. Passengers definitely have a different mindset when travelling through Luton of virus what virus and so do the airlines and airport authority.
Practices have not changed of calling passengers to the gates even before the aircraft has arrived. Flights are not spread out evenly throughout the day to reduce peaks. Pre boarding waiting areas are still packed out with the overflow backing up on staircases. Remote stands are still being used using overcrowded buses. Boarding is done as quickly as possible.
On arrival back at Luton long queues form for border force and baggage belts share multiple flights while others are empty.
What I see everyday is a scandal of epic proportions of blatant non compliance of any social distancing requirements because it is not possible at Luton. The airlines and the airport like to paint a different picture with their interviews and social media videos but it is all lies.
As for the few passengers with concerns, they have no control of the situations they find themselves in as they are processed through the airport in an unsafe way. The photos of passengers boarding a Wizz flight a few posts back is the final stage of their airport experience where any inhibitions have been removed from their mindset by the very process of getting passengers to the plane.
Practices have not changed of calling passengers to the gates even before the aircraft has arrived. Flights are not spread out evenly throughout the day to reduce peaks. Pre boarding waiting areas are still packed out with the overflow backing up on staircases. Remote stands are still being used using overcrowded buses. Boarding is done as quickly as possible.
On arrival back at Luton long queues form for border force and baggage belts share multiple flights while others are empty.
What I see everyday is a scandal of epic proportions of blatant non compliance of any social distancing requirements because it is not possible at Luton. The airlines and the airport like to paint a different picture with their interviews and social media videos but it is all lies.
As for the few passengers with concerns, they have no control of the situations they find themselves in as they are processed through the airport in an unsafe way. The photos of passengers boarding a Wizz flight a few posts back is the final stage of their airport experience where any inhibitions have been removed from their mindset by the very process of getting passengers to the plane.
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Luton is no different from most airports. Maybe the cracks are showing up here first but with limited space availability the choice is don’t fly or take a chance. The bigger issue is deception on the part of Wizz and LLAOL who give out the impression that they have the safety and well-being of passengers as their number one priority. It is actually their number 2 priority after making money.
Wizz don’t seem to do anything apart from asking passengers to wear masks. The airport operator has taken superficial measures that are compromised by staff and passengers but the terminal still has the same hourly flow rate as before.
Maybe both should just be honest and spell out the truth rather than the BS so people can make informed choices.
So what is more dangerous, flying on an aircraft out of Luton or visiting a pub? To be brutal I would say the pubs I visit feel safer and have more measures in place to ensure social distancing but a lot of people work at the airport. The airport is vital to the local community so maybe compromises have to take place. As for the Council enforcement teams and the airport police. They just look the other way.
Wizz don’t seem to do anything apart from asking passengers to wear masks. The airport operator has taken superficial measures that are compromised by staff and passengers but the terminal still has the same hourly flow rate as before.
Maybe both should just be honest and spell out the truth rather than the BS so people can make informed choices.
So what is more dangerous, flying on an aircraft out of Luton or visiting a pub? To be brutal I would say the pubs I visit feel safer and have more measures in place to ensure social distancing but a lot of people work at the airport. The airport is vital to the local community so maybe compromises have to take place. As for the Council enforcement teams and the airport police. They just look the other way.
Last edited by LTNman; 9th Aug 2020 at 15:37.
Perhaps worth remembering that the people who have most to gain by Luton being open and Wizz operating are likely to be either shareholders or are senior management who are often working from a desk at home, neither of which tend to be present very often on flights between Luton and an arbitrary city in E.Europe
Without wishing to demean the appalling sacrifice suffered by millions in WW 1, there does seem to be an element of the generals in their chateau, sending orders to the privates on the front line
I suspect that if senior management of both airport and airlines were regularly spending time in the main departures/arrivals areas and also regularly sitting for 3 hour periods on an A320 holding 179 other pax, then the approach might be different
Without wishing to demean the appalling sacrifice suffered by millions in WW 1, there does seem to be an element of the generals in their chateau, sending orders to the privates on the front line
I suspect that if senior management of both airport and airlines were regularly spending time in the main departures/arrivals areas and also regularly sitting for 3 hour periods on an A320 holding 179 other pax, then the approach might be different