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Old 11th Jun 2020, 04:39
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There can be no doubt that the Council has reintroduced subsidies that ended when the airport reached capacity.

Noted that all of the new routes announced by Wizz and Easyjet are to holiday destinations and none to Eastern Europe apart from Vanra, which is a holiday destination on the Black Sea, which must reflect the UK finally leaving the EU.

The jam appears to be spreading thinner next year so will anyone be making money particularly when the UK will be in a massive recession if the reports are to be believed.


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Old 11th Jun 2020, 13:02
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Originally Posted by LTNman
There can be no doubt that the Council has reintroduced subsidies that ended when the airport reached capacity.
Why is this a bad thing? This is a model that has been used by airports all over the world, for the benefit of airlines, passengers and airports together.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
There can be no doubt that the Council has reintroduced subsidies that ended when the airport reached capacity.

Noted that all of the new routes announced by Wizz and Easyjet are to holiday destinations and none to Eastern Europe apart from Vanra, which is a holiday destination on the Black Sea, which must reflect the UK finally leaving the EU.

The jam appears to be spreading thinner next year so will anyone be making money particularly when the UK will be in a massive recession if the reports are to be believed.
Airport subsidies have been used forever to attract new airline customers, and Ryanair have exploited that policy to an art form to obtain favourable terms.
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 13:41
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
Why is this a bad thing? This is a model that has been used by airports all over the world, for the benefit of airlines, passengers and airports together.

Did I say it was a bad thing? Does sound like the Council is panicking as it stares into the face of bankruptcy. The accounts show the rebates come from the Council while the airport operator says thank you very much.

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Old 14th Jun 2020, 19:56
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Is that the first Blue Air for a while back in tomorrow?
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Old 15th Jun 2020, 05:17
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Think it is a charter as there is no departure showing. Scheduled services are meant to start in July.
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 08:31
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Wizz to start daily route to Bacau on 29 October. Blue Air already fly the route

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Old 16th Jun 2020, 09:15
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Wizz will know the market cannot grow, as we are out of the EU transition period 2 months later. More of a case of shutting out Blue Air so Luton is even more reliant on Wizz and their demands for ever bigger discounts.

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Old 16th Jun 2020, 09:29
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I don't think Luton is the focus of what Wizz are doing

Blue Air currently fly from Bacau to:
Bergamo, Brussels, Dublin, Luton, Rome FCO and Turin

Wizz will fly from Bacau to:
Bergamo, Brussels-Charleroi, Luton, Rome FCO, Turin and 7 other cities

Wizz don't fly to Dublin, not even from Budapest
Wizz seem to be trying to take over from Blue Air in Bacau
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 13:13
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However, the Blue air timings are better with the morning departure. The Wizz timings are below:

BCM 1850-2015 LTN (Daily)

LTN 2045-0155+1 BCM (Daily)

Has anyone seen or got a link to the ACL LTN Winter 20 report?

Thanks
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 14:24
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Originally Posted by Boeing737-8
Has anyone seen or got a link to the ACL LTN Winter 20 report?

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Doesn’t appear to be available yet , only the capacity declaration



https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...eclaration.pdf
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 07:10
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May figures

Total passengers
31,492 2020
1,610,569 2019
Down 97.9%

Year to date
2,967,441 2020
6,844,389 2019
Down 56.6%

Rolling 12 months
14,123,021 2020
17,264,581 2019
Down 18.2%

Total ATM's

1,282 2020
13,112 2019
Down 90.2%

Year to date
28,300 2020
55,537 2019
Down 49.0%

Rolling 12 months
114,244 2020
138,451 2019
Down 17.5%


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Old 18th Jun 2020, 09:57
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Level have gone bankrupt. Presumably the route from Luton to Amsterdam is terminated
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 10:11
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Level have gone bankrupt. Presumably the route from Luton to Amsterdam is terminated
Really ?

They are part of IAG so would be surprised
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 10:12
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https://cms.flyleveleurope.com/en/leveleurope
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 11:35
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Confirmed Amsterdam terminated.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 11:38
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
Confirmed Amsterdam terminated.
Level Long Haul not affected
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 12:01
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Luton down to 6 airlines then.

So out of those 6 which was the last airline to arrive at Luton and when?

Luton seems very poor at attracting new airlines over the last 10 years which have stayed the distance. Actually they have been very poor in attracting any new airlines including those that failed or pulled out.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 12:09
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How do you get just 6 airlines ? I count 8...
Blue Air, Easyjet, El Al, Ryanair, SunExpress, TUI, Vueling and Wizzair

On your main point, I agree that Luton seems to be dependent on very few airlines given the number of passengers that passed through its doors in 2019
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 12:10
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Luton seems fairly set on volume over variety. They know EZY and WZZ can deliver that best for them.
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