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Old 7th Feb 2020, 04:40
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
Are you sure it will be painted? The “in thing” with these signature bridges is to use weathered steel. At least I recall reading that somewhere.

There’s a footbridge over a railway line in Chiswick, that’s been up over a year without any sign of a lick of paint. It’s a lovely shade of rust.


Edit: Found some pics to show what I mean.

https://expedition.uk.com/projects/c...rk-footbridge/
The rusty bits underneath are indeed not going to be painted as far as I know. It is the supports to the ski jump that are going to be painted as they are 5 different shades of grey at the moment.
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Seems the council is running into a few problems regarding its airport and its plans to jump the gun by starting building the £124 million approach road for the second terminal before the terminal is approved. The council thought they were clever keeping the road out of the DCO process, which will be decided by Government, as they claimed the road was for a business park. Most of this planned business park occupies the same public park that is required for airport expansion so can never be built.

Because it is not part of the DCO the council has discovered that despite the planning application coming from its own airport the road has got to be funded by the council and they can't afford it. They have already stated that the only way to fund the interest payments on the road is to cut council services but it gets worse. The dual carriageway is only viable if it serves a second terminal and not a business park but there is no guarantee the government will allow the airport to build a second terminal.

Now the councillors who have to vote this through and are normally compliant and somewhat intellectually challenged are surprisingly starting to ask questions which is resulting in that the decision for funding keeps getting deferred. I have no doubt that eventually this will be approved as the council has spent so much money on this project that it can't afford to quit now.

This leads to the next problem for the council which is a major one. The Government in a general funding consultation considers airports to be "high risk" properties so should be removed from local rating lists and placed on a central list. Should this happen it would have a very significant impact on Luton, as London Luton Airport is a major part of the Council’s current rating list. It would make Luton far more reliant on the business rates ‘top up’, and remove the potential link between future development of the Airport providing additional business rates income for the town.
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Old 7th Feb 2020, 08:02
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Originally Posted by LTNman
The rusty bits underneath are indeed not going to be painted as far as I know. It is the supports to the ski jump that are going to be painted as they are 5 different shades of grey at the moment.
Looks like the designers have managed to incorporate the unfinished aesthetic found elsewhere at the airport!
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https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/busines...d-2022-1392789
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More info here https://www.easyjet-new-home.co.uk/. To be noted that easyjet are keeping well away from the airport owned Century Park business park location which isn't surprising seeing the airport also want to expand the airport on most of the same site. Not sure where easyjet have found all those trees.

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Old 7th Feb 2020, 18:36
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Originally Posted by LTNman
More info here https://www.easyjet-new-home.co.uk/. To be noted that easyjet are keeping well away from the airport owned Century Park business park location which isn't surprising seeing the airport also want to expand the airport on most of the same site. Not sure where easyjet have found all those trees.

Century park has got nothing to do with the decision, the main reason is that easyJet wanted land which they could own themselves Which was near to the airport and not leased off of a third party. Hence the location.
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Old 7th Feb 2020, 19:14
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They have picked the only spot near the airport that isn't in an Enterprise Zone
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Old 7th Feb 2020, 19:31
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and pretty much all of that land in your map is owned by the airport ! hence why the land for the new hq has been bought by easyJet. Also the current HQ isnt in the enterprise zone.
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Certainly a good move for Easyjet owning their own land. Did hear a few months ago when the rumours started about easyJet’s new HQ location that they were going to rent a couple of floors in one of the multi-storey car parks to free up space for the building work. No idea if that is even being considered but that is what I heard.
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Old 7th Feb 2020, 22:59
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Certainly a good move for Easyjet owning their own land. Did hear a few months ago when the rumours started about easyJet’s new HQ location that they were going to rent a couple of floors in one of the multi-storey car parks to free up space for the building work. No idea if that is even being considered but that is what I heard.
you heard right but that was for car parking not for office space... Navigation house next to H89 is also being used as well as the academy and capability green at the moment.
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you heard right but that was for car parking not for office space... Navigation house next to H89 is also being used as well as the academy and capability green at the moment.
Don't they use a compond at the bottom of airport hill and bus employees to CTA?
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Once the building site has been completed, is it planned that Easyjet will own the land outright, or do they plan to sell the site to a property company (if Easyjet originally bought the site) and enter into a 10 year lease ?

Being the main tenant in an office building is one thing. Being the long term owner of the building is quite different. I imagine that Easyjet will be a very different company in 10 or 20 years time, and their needs for office space in 10+ years will also be rather different. Property companies are good at mamaging office space but lousy at flying; airlines are good at flying but not very good at managing office space when the size and shape of the airline changes significantly over time. Easyjet may well prefer a 10 year tenancy over building ownership
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Once the building site has been completed, is it planned that Easyjet will own the land outright, or do they plan to sell the site to a property company (if Easyjet originally bought the site) and enter into a 10 year lease ?

Being the main tenant in an office building is one thing. Being the long term owner of the building is quite different. I imagine that Easyjet will be a very different company in 10 or 20 years time, and their needs for office space in 10+ years will also be rather different. Property companies are good at mamaging office space but lousy at flying; airlines are good at flying but not very good at managing office space when the size and shape of the airline changes significantly over time. Easyjet may well prefer a 10 year tenancy over building ownership

land is already purchased and will remain owned by easyjet
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They have bought the whole site which also contains the staff car parking for the IBC van plant and I think an off site parking company as well as a coach company yard and offices. They won’t need the whole site so will they sell off the bits they don’t need or become a landlord?

The next question is will Easyjet keep their existing Hangar 89 just for its hangar space or will they vacate the whole building?
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Originally Posted by LTNman
They have bought the whole site which also contains the staff car parking for the IBC van plant and I think an off site parking company as well as a coach company yard and offices. They won’t need the whole site so will they sell off the bits they don’t need or become a landlord?

The next question is will Easyjet keep their existing Hangar 89 just for its hangar space or will they vacate the whole building?
the existing car park that easyJet uses will merge into the new hq, it’s adjoining land. hangar 89 lease has been extended and decisions on the office space at the front of the building will be made in the next year.
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I assume Navigation House, the academy & offices at capability green will have their leases expire then.
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There was a planning application last year to turn Navigation House into the only hotel inside the CTA.
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Several Wizz arrivals have ended up in Stansted today.
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And Ryanair, Easy & Blue. High winds & an airport on a hill don’t mix.
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More to do with the direction of the runway. Stansted is better aligned for the direction of the wind. Several more in the hold or not even bothering to go into the hold

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