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4 car service !? Back to the 1990s. And yes there isn't much luggage space. I think it's only 30mins on the standard Thameslink trains so a bit puzzled as to the advantages of an 'express'. But 4 car trains better not have any other station stops!
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The trains are 4-car insofar as that is the number of carriages you can walk between. They are actually operated in blocks of 1, 2 or 3 so in other words 4, 8 or 12 carriages in length. There isn’t currently any luggage storage but I’m sure they could be fairly easily reconfigured. What I will say as a regular user is the air conditioning is very good and they are about the most comfortable non-intercity trains I’ve travelled on in the UK.
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https://www.railwaygazette.com/news/...ee-brands.html
A new electric service between London St Pancras, Luton Airport Parkway, Bedford, Kettering, Wellingborough and Corby will be branded EMR Electrics. This is to be operated using refurbished Siemens Class 360 EMUs, and will have its own website, ‘easier’ ticketing and a dedicated platform at St Pancras. EMR said that once various developments had been completed, passengers would be able to reach the terminal at Luton Airport in ‘a little under half an hour’ from central London.
Luton's Express trains will come 2nd hand from from here.
https://www.angeltrains.co.uk/Produc...nger-Trains/19
As Thameslink serves many more stations including Crossrail at Farringdon and London Bridge they will still be the company of choice for most passengers.
A new electric service between London St Pancras, Luton Airport Parkway, Bedford, Kettering, Wellingborough and Corby will be branded EMR Electrics. This is to be operated using refurbished Siemens Class 360 EMUs, and will have its own website, ‘easier’ ticketing and a dedicated platform at St Pancras. EMR said that once various developments had been completed, passengers would be able to reach the terminal at Luton Airport in ‘a little under half an hour’ from central London.
Luton's Express trains will come 2nd hand from from here.
https://www.angeltrains.co.uk/Produc...nger-Trains/19
As Thameslink serves many more stations including Crossrail at Farringdon and London Bridge they will still be the company of choice for most passengers.
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Seems Luton is doing well
Happy passengers at London Luton Airport - Airport World Magazine
Happy passengers at London Luton Airport - Airport World Magazine
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All this chat on the Southend thread about Amazon Cargo, luton with 3 distribution centres nearby, does any amazon come through luton, lease space on DHL or MNG metal?
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On a different topic I see the Government has decided not to call in the original Century Park Plans including the 2Km road .
I know this isn’t the updated expansion plan but I wonder how long it will take to start the construction of this road and bulldozing the buildings in the way. pretty sure the council won’t want to hang around as this will be the basis for the planned expansion.
Also the Vauxhall Way duelling is part of the wider regional plans?
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Not aware of any now , maybe wrong but during the Amazon German strike I understand ad hoc cargo flights did use the Airport.
On a different topic I see the Government has decided not to call in the original Century Park Plans including the 2Km road .
I know this isn’t the updated expansion plan but I wonder how long it will take to start the construction of this road and bulldozing the buildings in the way. pretty sure the council won’t want to hang around as this will be the basis for the planned expansion.
Also the Vauxhall Way duelling is part of the wider regional plans?
I think it was part of the wider highway plans, has not £6.2M already be secured for this work?
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There is something very wrong with the planning process when a council sets up its own company which then puts in its own planning application that is then voted through with next to no discussion by a set of councillors who are biased. I was reading in the local paper that one of those councillors who voted it through was on a management committee of a charity that received £860,000 in grants from the company putting in the planning application. Seems he felt he did not need to declare an interest.
To put it into context they voted to destroy one of Luton's largest public parks for council gain while at the same time voting to block a small supermarket on the grounds that it was on a tiny piece of green space that the public can't access.
To put it into context they voted to destroy one of Luton's largest public parks for council gain while at the same time voting to block a small supermarket on the grounds that it was on a tiny piece of green space that the public can't access.
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There are three questions to answer.
1. Is it consistent with local and national planning policy?
2. If the same development proposal on the same site had been submitted by an independent private applicant would the outcome likely have been the same?
3. Was proper process followed?
If the answer to 1. AND one or both of 2. and 3. is no, get it challenged in the courts. If not, I’m afraid there is nothing to see.
1. Is it consistent with local and national planning policy?
2. If the same development proposal on the same site had been submitted by an independent private applicant would the outcome likely have been the same?
3. Was proper process followed?
If the answer to 1. AND one or both of 2. and 3. is no, get it challenged in the courts. If not, I’m afraid there is nothing to see.
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1/ The planning permission breached the Local Plan that was only adopted in 2017.
2/I think it is unlikely that any council would vote through the destruction of its own 70 acre park due to a third party application.
3/ Planning permission was granted 2 weeks before the end of the statutory consultation period.
All very dodgy, all very Luton where democracy died many years ago.
2/I think it is unlikely that any council would vote through the destruction of its own 70 acre park due to a third party application.
3/ Planning permission was granted 2 weeks before the end of the statutory consultation period.
All very dodgy, all very Luton where democracy died many years ago.
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https://m.luton.gov.uk/Page/Show/new...tToMobile=True
Wasn't this on the cards last March, as soon as the Gov had no objections, full steam ahead?
Wasn't this on the cards last March, as soon as the Gov had no objections, full steam ahead?
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Interesting article full of council bull. For a start Century Park mark 2 and the airport expansion site sit on the same piece of land so which is it? The application was all about putting a road into the local park on the pretence it was for a business park when it was actually for the airport.
The Council is correct in stating that Century Park has had planning permission for over 20 years but that is in the field next door to the park. Instead of creating 3,200 jobs that field has been identified as a site for a long term car park. So much for council job creation. Building a terminal and new aprons will just create low paid work rather than higher paid work a business park would create. Just need to look at the terminal vacancies to see that. Fancy starting work at 4 in the morning or starting a shift that finishes in the early hours or working 24/7 rosters? No, well neither no many other people which is why there are always vacancies.
https://www.london-luton.co.uk/corporate/working-at-lla
The Council is correct in stating that Century Park has had planning permission for over 20 years but that is in the field next door to the park. Instead of creating 3,200 jobs that field has been identified as a site for a long term car park. So much for council job creation. Building a terminal and new aprons will just create low paid work rather than higher paid work a business park would create. Just need to look at the terminal vacancies to see that. Fancy starting work at 4 in the morning or starting a shift that finishes in the early hours or working 24/7 rosters? No, well neither no many other people which is why there are always vacancies.
https://www.london-luton.co.uk/corporate/working-at-lla
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Interesting article full of council bull. For a start Century Park mark 2 and the airport expansion site sit on the same piece of land so which is it? The application was all about putting a road into the local park on the pretence it was for a business park when it was actually for the airport.
The Council is correct in stating that Century Park has had planning permission for over 20 years but that is in the field next door to the park. Instead of creating 3,200 jobs that field has been identified as a site for a long term car park. So much for council job creation. Building a terminal and new aprons will just create low paid work rather than higher paid work a business park would create. Just need to look at the terminal vacancies to see that. Fancy starting work at 4 in the morning or starting a shift that finishes in the early hours or working 24/7 rosters? No, well neither no many other people which is why there are always vacancies.
https://www.london-luton.co.uk/corporate/working-at-lla
The Council is correct in stating that Century Park has had planning permission for over 20 years but that is in the field next door to the park. Instead of creating 3,200 jobs that field has been identified as a site for a long term car park. So much for council job creation. Building a terminal and new aprons will just create low paid work rather than higher paid work a business park would create. Just need to look at the terminal vacancies to see that. Fancy starting work at 4 in the morning or starting a shift that finishes in the early hours or working 24/7 rosters? No, well neither no many other people which is why there are always vacancies.
https://www.london-luton.co.uk/corporate/working-at-lla
Not sure if you live/ work around the Airport but I for one , who was born and raised in Luton am glad that the council are trying to invest heavily in its assets.Its about time, Luton has never been the most appealing place with too much negativity.
its a case of damned if they do, damned if they don’t for the council.
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Much needed Investment
Seriously you think that jobs on a business park pay better than an Airport these days!!.
Not sure if you live/ work around the Airport but I for one , who was born and raised in Luton am glad that the council are trying to invest heavily in its assets.Its about time, Luton has never been the most appealing place with too much negativity.
its a case of damned if they do, damned if they don’t for the council.
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The high paid engineering work is fast disappearing away from Luton with Monarch going bust, Gulfstream moving to Farnborough and Signature stopping aircraft maintenance work.
Clearly jobs will be created at an expanded airport but the proposed new terminal, car parks and aprons will generate in the main low paid work, both zero hour, part time and full time work working 24/7 shift patterns. Airport security staff have only recently ended a strike as LLAOL forced them into new contracts where they got only 9 weekends off per year and were forced to work an extra 15 days per year.
While some here would love to work at the airport most people just want a living wage, doing 9-5 hours with the weekend off. My son did baggage handling at the airport for around 9 months, was stuck on a 20 hour contract working on some days just 4 hours and having to work any hour of the day or night. He would have loved to have worked on a business park but lucky for him he has now broken free from the airport and now works normal hours so he can always watch his beloved football.
The truth is that airport companies with 24/7 shift patterns or 4 am start times struggle to get staff and retain staff on the wages they pay as the work is regarded as shiite by many of the staff doing the work. As pointed out in a previous post you have only to look at the vacancies to see keeping staff is a problem at the airport yet a few here want more of the same as the quality of the job matters little.
https://unitetheunion.org/news-event...luton-airport/
Clearly jobs will be created at an expanded airport but the proposed new terminal, car parks and aprons will generate in the main low paid work, both zero hour, part time and full time work working 24/7 shift patterns. Airport security staff have only recently ended a strike as LLAOL forced them into new contracts where they got only 9 weekends off per year and were forced to work an extra 15 days per year.
While some here would love to work at the airport most people just want a living wage, doing 9-5 hours with the weekend off. My son did baggage handling at the airport for around 9 months, was stuck on a 20 hour contract working on some days just 4 hours and having to work any hour of the day or night. He would have loved to have worked on a business park but lucky for him he has now broken free from the airport and now works normal hours so he can always watch his beloved football.
The truth is that airport companies with 24/7 shift patterns or 4 am start times struggle to get staff and retain staff on the wages they pay as the work is regarded as shiite by many of the staff doing the work. As pointed out in a previous post you have only to look at the vacancies to see keeping staff is a problem at the airport yet a few here want more of the same as the quality of the job matters little.
https://unitetheunion.org/news-event...luton-airport/
