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Luton’s aim is to match Gatwick passenger arrivals by train at 36%. At the moment it is below 16%. The council are also in talks to get Luton Airport Parkway renamed as Luton Airport on completion of the Dart. As for the cost of the Dart and airport expansion the thinking is that the next franchise winner will pay an up front payment to clear all debts as well as paying a per passenger fee to the council.
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Luton’s aim is to match Gatwick passenger arrivals by train at 36%. At the moment it is below 16%. The council are also in talks to get Luton Airport Parkway renamed as Luton Airport on completion of the Dart. As for the cost of the Dart and airport expansion the thinking is that the next franchise winner will pay an up front payment to clear all debts as well as paying a per passenger fee to the council.
Im just going to stop now before it gets into Stansted v Luton match again.
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Re the DART...
Will the customer be charged for the journey from Parkway up the hill?
Perhaps if they are then renaming Parkway as Luton Airport would be against the trades description act.
Will the customer be charged for the journey from Parkway up the hill?
Perhaps if they are then renaming Parkway as Luton Airport would be against the trades description act.
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Stansted is in a different league to Luton, has been since Stansted’s terminal was completed not that it makes Luton any less popular with its existing major airlines that grab any spare capacity that is available.
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They are looking to try and integrate the ticket but the question has to be asked what happens to those that start their journey at the station?
As for the station being called Luton Airport, it would be no different time wise than a walk or bus ride to an airport car park, in fact it will be quicker.
Oyster is coming this year to Luton
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My whole point..."with its existing major airlines that grab any spare capacity that is available"...soon perhaps there will be none.
ACL reported a while back that LTN will contribute zero extra slots for the London market this Summer.
This evidently was only overcome with the recently announced WizzUK use of "red eye" slots & flights for it`s expansion.
ACL reported a while back that LTN will contribute zero extra slots for the London market this Summer.
This evidently was only overcome with the recently announced WizzUK use of "red eye" slots & flights for it`s expansion.
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If there was a single ticket price, regardless of whether the station or the terminal was the final destiion, then it would probably be the case that a ticket to Luton the town, which is the next stop, could be cheaper than a train to Parkway. Not sure if the rail authorities would accept that, as anyone starting a journey from Parkway would also be paying for a journey they did not make.
Network Rail will be building a separate passenger footbridge with 3 new lifts and 6 escalators as Parkway has 3 platforms serving its 4 tracks that will link to the raised Dart Station that will be level with the footbridge.
Network Rail will be building a separate passenger footbridge with 3 new lifts and 6 escalators as Parkway has 3 platforms serving its 4 tracks that will link to the raised Dart Station that will be level with the footbridge.
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So any construction costs at Parkway itself will be down to Network Rail obviously.
Regarding the renaming,the convoluted ticketing options/outcomes for rail users put forward above with the DART should be enough for the regulator watchdog not to agree.
No big deals however as signage "For Luton Airport" is good enough one would think,otherwise it begins to assume the appearance of a vanity idea.
Regarding the renaming,the convoluted ticketing options/outcomes for rail users put forward above with the DART should be enough for the regulator watchdog not to agree.
No big deals however as signage "For Luton Airport" is good enough one would think,otherwise it begins to assume the appearance of a vanity idea.
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also anyone else noticed the rubbish Saturday train service,
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No big deals however as signage "For Luton Airport" is good enough one would think,otherwise it begins to assume the appearance of a vanity idea.
This is the consultation document which is quite interesting and shows the platform interchange to the DART station
https://www.llal.org.uk/Documents/Lu...n%20Panels.pdf
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Construction update
The entry and exit route have now been diverted. In the top left hand corner the first part of the DART route can be seen as all the soil has now been dug out. The cut and cover tunnel will continue to the left of the existing road tunnel and cut through the existing embankment onto the roadway.
The dig out and tunnel construction will continue to the temporary road where the sharp bend is. Once complete the original route will be restored and work will then commence on the missing section to the station, which is to the right of the photo and out of shot.
Around 10%, maybe less of the steelwork for the second multistory has been erected.
The temporary pedestrian route to the drop off area will have to be put back so it hugs the back of the car park before the steelwork erection carries on in two directions once the fence is reached
The dig out and tunnel construction will continue to the temporary road where the sharp bend is. Once complete the original route will be restored and work will then commence on the missing section to the station, which is to the right of the photo and out of shot.
Around 10%, maybe less of the steelwork for the second multistory has been erected.
The temporary pedestrian route to the drop off area will have to be put back so it hugs the back of the car park before the steelwork erection carries on in two directions once the fence is reached
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The entry and exit route have now been diverted. In the top left hand corner the first part of the DART route can be seen as all the soil has now been dug out. The cut and cover tunnel will continue to the left of the existing road tunnel and cut through the existing embankment onto the roadway
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So any construction costs at Parkway itself will be down to Network Rail obviously.
Regarding the renaming,the convoluted ticketing options/outcomes for rail users put forward above with the DART should be enough for the regulator watchdog not to agree.
No big deals however as signage "For Luton Airport" is good enough one would think,otherwise it begins to assume the appearance of a vanity idea.
Regarding the renaming,the convoluted ticketing options/outcomes for rail users put forward above with the DART should be enough for the regulator watchdog not to agree.
No big deals however as signage "For Luton Airport" is good enough one would think,otherwise it begins to assume the appearance of a vanity idea.
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The airport is looking for a one ticket solution. It exists now except with a dotted line shown on maps many passengers only buy a ticket to Parkway and not the Airport. It is not so bad for passengers arriving by air as they will buy a ticket in the terminal for London or where ever that includes the bus link.
The airport are claiming the complete journey from terminal to London in under 30 minutes via the DART while in reality without the 4 non stop trains an hour that the new franchise rail agreement didn't give the airport, only a very few passengers will ever complete the journey in that time.
The airport are claiming the complete journey from terminal to London in under 30 minutes via the DART while in reality without the 4 non stop trains an hour that the new franchise rail agreement didn't give the airport, only a very few passengers will ever complete the journey in that time.