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Old 8th Nov 2018, 16:39
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Why is Travel Mole above a different perspective?...

The end result is LTN have acquired 10 self-propelled wheelchairs & put into place other related services.

TBH as much as I refer to Travel Mole,the general public do not & will get their news feed from the likes of the BBC witness this pm.

The wheelchair user has won the argument.
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Old 8th Nov 2018, 21:03
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This is why the airport is never too keen on people taking photos or video at the airport as they have no control of the content unless they provide minders. With most of the terminal now complete and looking at the finish of airport provided fixtures and fittings I don't expect that position to change anytime soon.

We're going through a really exciting phase here at London Luton. We’re investing £110m to transform your airport – increasing the choice of destinations, making road and rail access easier and your airport journey quicker.This does mean we're not in the best shape for filming or photography and so are unable to accept requests other than for news/current affairs just at this time.







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Old 8th Nov 2018, 21:27
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Noticed taxiway Foxtrot will not be joined to the East Apron at a 90 degree angle(as in the master plan) but instead will join taxiway delta further to the south and at a 45 degree angle.
This apparently is due to not having to dig out contaminated land.

New plan at LBC 18/00001/GPDOPD
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 06:27
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They are still digging out plenty of rubbish including an old bicycle. Looking at the plan there doesn't seem to be any room for aircraft to pass each other when being de-iced. I am guessing the brown areas are the maneuvering areas for the de-icing trucks.

Note the red line marks the boundary of the rubbish tip.

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Old 9th Nov 2018, 11:07
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Construction update

This is the terminals grand entrance. Personally I think it is a shocker. The slatted wood gaps are too wide and only covers the middle section with almost every pipe, cable, trunking and heating duct on show. Not content with this a careful look over at Pret shows two massive heating ducts that jut out below the natural height of the ceiling. What can't be seen in this photo is a matching gap either side of the slats. Also seen is the mass of filler that has replaced the broken floor tiles.


Into the new terminal extension by the airside exit shows that the slats don't even cross at right angles in the direction people walk so blocking part of the view of the services. What is quite nice is the large screen video wall showing video and arrival times located behind the temporary arrivals sign.


I actually have doubts whether the rest of the new build will even get a slatted ceiling as it achieves little. Also I don't know why they didn't spray all the silver black to help hide it.


Outside another section of covered bus waiting area is being covered in fabric.


Windows have arrived onsite to part cover the old temporary entrance. As seen work continues on the main walk to the terminal which is having a more moderate slope put in.


Meanwhile sheet piling is being put in at the station site while the concrete piling to the right and out of sight is being exposed.


Sheet piling is also being sunk just behind the crane for the temporary road route. With a small parking area going in which is being tarmacked in this photo, I am now starting to think that all road traffic will end up going around the bus station roundabout so allowing a section of cut and cover to be dug out. Also the easyjet building is having its orange restored so it would seem that they are going nowhere.


Work is continuing on the foundations of the second multistory. The footprint of this second multistory is truly massive. In the distance can be seen work on Foxtrot being carried out.


Finally the leveling of the ground for taxiway foxtrot and the deicing pads is taking place just by the long term car park.

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Old 9th Nov 2018, 12:36
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Originally Posted by cj241101
Anyone know if the Vueling Amsterdam gets announced as "Iberia" as they also have a code share?
Answered my own question this morning - yes, Iberia flights as well as Alitalia now get announced on the airport PA.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 12:54
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What I don’t understand with regards to the broken tiles is if they won’t replace them then why not add a white additive to the filler to at least make it blend in a bit.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 13:08
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Originally Posted by cj241101
Answered my own question this morning - yes, Iberia flights as well as Alitalia now get announced on the airport PA.
Strange, can you book flights on the Alitalia booking engine? I know you can on Iberia's?
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 13:16
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Originally Posted by pabely
Strange, can you book flights on the Alitalia booking engine? I know you can on Iberia's?
Yes you can
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 13:39
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Originally Posted by Falcon666
What I don’t understand with regards to the broken tiles is if they won’t replace them then why not add a white additive to the filler to at least make it blend in a bit.


What I don't understand is that the new build floor was breaking up within weeks of opening but just like the 1999 floor of the main part of the terminal no one has ever gone back to fix it so no warranty comes to mind. The strange thing is that cleaners pick away at chewing gum which is the same colour as the filler yet the filler looks like elephants chewing gum and can cover several tiles at a time.

Maybe I should crawl around the terminal floor on by bum and send the footage to the BBC. Thinking Wheelchairs.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 14:02
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Originally Posted by Falcon666
Yes you can
Cool, didn't work when did a quick try on my phone. Perhaps this is a toe in the water to other Alitalia schedules finally moving from LHR ;-)?
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 14:51
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Originally Posted by pabely
Cool, didn't work when did a quick try on my phone. Perhaps this is a toe in the water to other Alitalia schedules finally moving from LHR ;-)?
Wishful thinking !
Alitalia signed a code share with Blueair last December on various routes they operate.
Not sure what the load factor has been on the Turin flights but I suspect not good enough if it isn’t available for S19.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 15:13
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Thanks to LTNman for the photos showing the awful non-ceiling. What would be interesting would be to see if there are 'artist impressions' from the original application / PR as to how it would look when finished. Coz it sure wouldn't look it does.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 15:33
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Trying to relieve the boredom while stood waiting in the queue at Passport Control, you look up towards the myriad of air conditioning ducts located in the ceiling. Most are now covered in an inch thick layer of grey, woolly dust, which I would hazard a guess now represents a fire risk in addition to the hazard of breathing in said particles for those entering the country.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 15:58
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The vision before half the wooden ceiling got scrapped. My top photo was taken by the second pillar from the right of the artists impression. The actual layout is spot on but it is just the finish as though no one cares about passenger perceptions. This is why the airport will struggle to attract anymore full fare airlines. It's the little things like the airport putting up plasterboard walls and then painting them with white emulsion so within 10 minutes of the paint drying they get scuffed.

Also when did Luton last attract a new airline to fly services into it? Don't remember any in 2018. Luton is only full for night stoppers and not for foreign airlines wanting daytime access.




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Old 9th Nov 2018, 16:56
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With the cost this development put at £160 million I would have thought an extra £100,000 spend on fixtures and fittings would have gone a long way but with the Spanish concessionaires having to eventually hand the airport back they are in no mood to spend more than they have to especially with a 60% overspend on the original projected cost.

The whole airport is once again a mass building site with cranes and machinery in all four corners of the airport.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 21:45
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Thanks LTNman, exactly what I suspected. Cutting costs now, only makes the future more expensive.
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Old 10th Nov 2018, 19:39
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Grrr

Allegedly, taxiway Foxtrot has been a disaster! Having to backfill due to the ex landfill contamination being exposed and a subsequent environmental disaster ! Now I have been told that the wing tip clearance is not sufficient to permit passing on Delta and newly realigned Foxtrot!

Billy Smart's legacy lives on! What next? Building Tinminal 2 on on the old Tidy Tip?
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Old 11th Nov 2018, 00:17
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Taxiway Delta and Foxtrot will have the correct clearance but as for Terminal 2 LLAL want to place the terminal right over and on top of the former council rubbish tip. Not content with that it will decimate a designated County Wildlife Site and large public park. As the town has a shortage of spare land a replacement park is proposed across the border in Hertfordshire.
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Old 11th Nov 2018, 09:59
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What is happening to (NO) Prospect House, the old Monarch headquarters building? It is surrounded by fencing. Who is going to take it on?
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