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Old 29th Oct 2018, 16:31
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 17:50
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Taxiway Foxtrot
On a visit today noticed the work being carried out for the new taxiway.
The width being dug out appears to be wide enough for the taxiway plus the stand areas for deicing .
i wonder what will happen when this is finished , as for at least nine / ten months of the year will there will be an area sitting dormant capable of having remote parked biz jets maybe?
Has anybody seen the planned layout when it's finished?
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 20:45
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 20:55
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Don't think H61 can take the 787-9s though
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 21:36
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787-9

I have seen a TUI 787-9 at Ltn. If it was not carrying passengers or not in for maintenance; what was it in for?
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 23:36
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Originally Posted by Falcon666 View Post
Taxiway Foxtrot
On a visit today noticed the work being carried out for the new taxiway.
The width being dug out appears to be wide enough for the taxiway plus the stand areas for deicing .
i wonder what will happen when this is finished , as for at least nine / ten months of the year will there will be an area sitting dormant capable of having remote parked biz jets maybe?
Has anybody seen the planned layout when it's finished?



Not sure where the new deicing area is going to be built or even if it will be built as it was an option on the tender for the new taxiway. If built would it be a better location than the south stands which is handy for both 08 and 26 departures. Also as suggested by Falcon666 what happens to a new deicing area if built when it is not being used in summer? Long term parking for biz jets seems a good idea.






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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 12:42
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Not sure where the new deicing area is going to be built or even if it will be built as it was an option on the tender for the new taxiway. If built would it be a better location than the south stands which is handy for both 08 and 26 departures. Also as suggested by Falcon666 what happens to a new deicing area if built when it is not being used in summer? Long term parking for biz jets seems a good idea.


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I found the plan on the LBC planning site 18/01463/DOC DC03 Flood assessment Phase 2 Foxtrot Page 28
It appears they are digging an area approx twice the width of the taxiway required then Taxiway foxtrot will go through the middle with areas either side being asphalted.
This looks like Foxtrot will be used at all times until deicing is required then Foxtrot will be closed for deicing ( maybe big enough for four a/c) only.

So there will not be a separate area as such for deicing and as such no more room for remote biz jets.

Sorry couldn’t cut and paste the plan but have a look and see what you think.Hope it makes sense.

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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 13:21
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Well spotted that man. Can aircraft pass each other when being de-iced? Guess it depends how the pads are marked up.

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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 14:02
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But in the summer when no deicing is required and the airport is short of overnight parking, double taxiway width enables space to be used for.....😉
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 18:34
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Some rather awful pictures of a paraplegic man dragging himself along the floor in LTN's terminal because his wheelchair had been lost and no one either from the airline or terminal staff would help him. On tv news channels and websites...if true then not good publicity.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 18:55
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Please report all the facts......In August 2017 he arrived on a flight to Luton Airport to discover his custom-made, self-propelling wheelchair had been left behind.At the airport, staff offered to push him through the terminal on a high-backed wheelchair - an option he rejected as degrading.

He asked if he could instead be transported in a motorised buggy. However, Luton does not have one.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 19:14
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking View Post
Some rather awful pictures of a paraplegic man dragging himself along the floor in LTN's terminal because his wheelchair had been lost and no one either from the airline or terminal staff would help him. On tv news channels and websites...if true then not good publicity.
But someone, presumably with him, helpfully recorded all rather than pushing a proffered wheelchair It doesn't make Luton's offering right, but does make you wonder
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 19:39
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But someone, presumably with him, helpfully recorded all rather than pushing a proffered wheelchair It doesn't make Luton's offering right, but does make you wonder
This guy was making a political point!! So far as I can see from the recent BBC news report his motorised chair was lost in transit; LTN airport / the airline's handling agent offered assistance by providing a non motorised chair to get through the airport which he, for reasons I don't readily understand, he refused - probably to make said political point.

It isn't the airport's fault that his chair was mislaid, and I honestly don't know how he can seriously expect to win a legal case against the airport. I sincerely hope he loses. there is too much of the social media driven attention seeking nonsense today. Sh1t happens!
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 19:47
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Originally Posted by kildress View Post
But someone, presumably with him, helpfully recorded all rather than pushing a proffered wheelchair It doesn't make Luton's offering right, but does make you wonder
Ironically In the independent report in July on disabled airport access Luton performed better than many.
I think if you are offered help you should accept it, not use it as an excuse for publicity.
Its a bit like being offered a Ford Fiesta when your used to a BMW.
I have a disabled friend who is quite embarrassed by this report, she used a word but I won’t use it here.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 19:49
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But someone, presumably with him, helpfully recorded all rather than pushing a proffered wheelchair It doesn't make Luton's offering right, but does make you wonder
Yes indeed it does 'make you wonder'. A lot of interesting camera angles, and the BBC roped in, however LTN needs to kick it's PR department into life because this is not good publicity regardless of it's validity.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 19:51
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I have seen a TUI 787-9 at Ltn. If it was not carrying passengers or not in for maintenance; what was it in for?

Engine change....and they don't quite fit!
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 20:04
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The guys issue was that the airport does not supply self propelled wheelchairs. By dragging himself across the floor I am surprised he didn't comment on the state of the broken and cracked floor tiles.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 22:27
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Think about able bodied people. Some are mild mannered, willing to accept whatever life throws at them apologising for having to make the slightest fuss. Others are billigerent so and sos, who will create merry Hell over a minor inconvenience.

Disabled people are exactly the same as the rest of us in this regard. Sure, this guy had reason to be seriously unhappy, but his actions say far more about his character than his disability.

I'm glad Luton's management have vigorously defended their staff.

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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 22:43
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I wonder on what grounds does he think he has a case against LTN and is suing them? They provide PRM assistance facilities which are at the very least in line with all current legislation, with fully trained staff and modern equipment. PRM handling exists to safely and comfortably get those who require it from point A to Point B in a timely manor. There is no provision for having all manor of customised wheelchairs available to suit the needs of every PRMs specific tastes. In this case we see the airport and PRM company providing the exacts service they are obliged to do and it is being refused, so I cannot possibly see how this man could win his case. If you require an airport wheelchair then you take what is there in cases like this. In this case the specialised chair was left behind. A disgrace of course, but certainly not the fault of LTN or the PRM company, so why he felt the need for this protest is quite a mystery. I am glad LTN are standing up to him.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 23:37
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I would like to know how he managed to get off the aircraft, by ambilift in a wheelchair with help from the care bears I would imagine. Then decided as his own wheelchair was not available he would slide across the terminal floor. What happened when he got to passport control! Also the incident occurred in August 2017 seems a long time to make a claim. I wonder if the airline was Monarch. Lots of unanswered questions.
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