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Old 1st Aug 2018, 17:43
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Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street
I recall 2 Boeing 747s parked (at the same time) on that very apron a few years ago for football charters. I further recall a 747 on the south apron and a Antanov 124 also parked on the south apron. Further more there was a Virgin 747 and another 747 that was parked in front of the current Britannia hangar many years ago. In effect most large transports can be accommodated but during quieter periods.
All very true but the question is regarding terminal stands and not bused stands. The 2 747's appeared when there was no pier. Luton is a different place from those days. I suppose there is nothing to stop a new wider stand being painted in which would temporarily reduce the grand total of stands by one if something wide came in as long as the length wasn't an issue.
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Originally Posted by Falcon666
Easyjet a/c with hydraulic problems landed and airport fire in attendance .
Runway inspected for fluid, airport closed for about 10 mins
Same issue Vueling operating from Florence. Escorted by 2 trucks and commander .
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 09:50
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Originally Posted by LTNman
All very true but the question is regarding terminal stands and not bused stands. The 2 747's appeared when there was no pier. Luton is a different place from those days. I suppose there is nothing to stop a new wider stand being painted in which would temporarily reduce the grand total of stands by one if something wide came in as long as the length wasn't an issue.

That may clear things up
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Landed in Luton over the weekend - bags delivered quickly.
Signage for Car Hire transfer bus in terminal is non existent. Had to ask and we were directed towards Bus Stop Bay C.
Queues for security and check in looked very, very long
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Allegedly the 'drop off fees' are a huge cash cow for the airport operator. When I say huge, more like gargantuan!
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 16:02
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Probably offsets some of the airline discounts.

No start date yet on the new taxiways which were meant to have been started in June
Turner & Townsend has landed two roles on a job for Luton Airport.

The consultant is set to act as project manager and cost consultant for the airport as it looks to build an additional taxiway.

While the contract was initially estimated to be worth £650,000, T&T is set to be paid £665,642 to carry out the job.According to the contract award notice, which has been published on the Official Journal, Turner & Townsend beat out three other bidders for the job. The airport’s legal team launched the search for a contractor for the job in March.

The £7.1m contract was expected to start this month and wrap in May 2019. No contractor has been appointed.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 09:39
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In the above quote, the figures in para 3 are roughly 10x the amount in para 4. Are they referring to the same job?
Presumably this relates to the new taxiway parallel to Delta.
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Airport Ground Access - Cash Cow

Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
Allegedly the 'drop off fees' are a huge cash cow for the airport operator. When I say huge, more like gargantuan!
The only document I can find regarding how passengers get to/from the airport is the "London Luton Airport Surface Access Strategy " document published in 2009, and it states 28.3% of passengers arrive/depart the airport by car pick up/drop off and 13.5% arrive by taxi, totalling 41.8%.
(Source - https://www.london-luton.co.uk/corpo...ccess-strategy)

These are very crude and basic figures, but based on the airport as it is right now, operating at 17 million passengers a year, that 41.8% figure works out to be 6.656 million passengers.

If we halved that figure assuming every car bringing passengers to the airport was carrying two passenger, that works out to be nearly £10 million a year in £3 fees.

In addition 18.7% in 2009 were using the airports on-site car parking facilities.... That, percentage equates to about 3.1 million passengers now, when you factor in the cheapest daily charges available online are around £8,50 a day, and those fees go up exponentially, if you use short stay or don't book in-advance, the mind boggles at how much money they are making here!

About 38% of passengers are arriving by bus/train/off-site parking services... I think we can all be confident the airport is making a cut on coach tickets and the train shuttle service, so probably a nice bit of revenue there too. Also I'm sure companies like AirParks at Slip End pay a handsome fee to operate their buses to airport and being allowed to have their own bus bay at the terminal bus station probably comes with a hefty price tag!

The figures could be very different now and in the ways people get to the airport, but it gives food for thought, how much the airport is making, in just ground access to/from the airport. No wonder they can afford to keep re-configuring the the drop-off zone every few months!
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To say nothing of parking in the 5-storey MSCP at £55 per day....
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
In the above quote, the figures in para 3 are roughly 10x the amount in para 4. Are they referring to the same job?
Presumably this relates to the new taxiway parallel to Delta.
The £665,642 is for looking at doing the work by a consultant while the £7.1 cost is for the grafting.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 11:59
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If we halved that figure assuming every car bringing passengers to the airport was carrying two passenger, that works out to be nearly £10 million a year in £3 fees.
Those passengers getting dropped off also get picked up so the car trips are doubled at £6 per round trip.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 15:54
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From Airline Route:Wizz Air at the launch of winter 2018/19 season is launching Wizz Air UK operation, under IATA code W9. In addition to the launch of new code, the airline also further expands London Luton network in winter 2018/19 season.

London Luton – Kharkiv eff 13NOV18 3 weekly
W94487 LTN0700 – 1245HRK 32S 246
W94488 HRK1315 – 1510LTN 32S 246

London Luton – Lisbon eff 28OCT18 1 daily
W94493 LTN1715 – 1955LIS 32S D
W94494 LIS2035 – 2320LTN 32S D

Previously reported new routes (operating under Wizz Air UK’s W9-coded flight numbers):
London Luton – Eilat/Ovda eff 28OCT18 2 weekly A320
London Luton – Grenoble eff 15DEC18 2 weekly A320
London Luton – Tromso eff 14DEC18 2 weekly A320
London Luton – Verona eff 15DEC18 2 weekly A320

Following Wizz Air service to/from London Luton will continue to operate under W6-coded flight numbers: Athens, Belgrade, Bucharest, Budapest, Chisinau, Cluj, Craiova, Debrecen, Gdansk, Iasi, Katowick, Kiev Zhulyany, Kutaisi, Poznan, Reykjavik Keflavik, Riga, Sibiu, Skopje, Sofia, Timisoara, Varna, Warsaw, Wroclaw
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Grrr

Originally Posted by gilesdavies
The only document I can find regarding how passengers get to/from the airport is the "London Luton Airport Surface Access Strategy " document published in 2009, and it states 28.3% of passengers arrive/depart the airport by car pick up/drop off and 13.5% arrive by taxi, totalling 41.8%.
(Source - https://www.london-luton.co.uk/corpo...ccess-strategy)

These are very crude and basic figures, but based on the airport as it is right now, operating at 17 million passengers a year, that 41.8% figure works out to be 6.656 million passengers.

If we halved that figure assuming every car bringing passengers to the airport was carrying two passenger, that works out to be nearly £10 million a year in £3 fees.

In addition 18.7% in 2009 were using the airports on-site car parking facilities.... That, percentage equates to about 3.1 million passengers now, when you factor in the cheapest daily charges available online are around £8,50 a day, and those fees go up exponentially, if you use short stay or don't book in-advance, the mind boggles at how much money they are making here!

About 38% of passengers are arriving by bus/train/off-site parking services... I think we can all be confident the airport is making a cut on coach tickets and the train shuttle service, so probably a nice bit of revenue there too. Also I'm sure companies like AirParks at Slip End pay a handsome fee to operate their buses to airport and being allowed to have their own bus bay at the terminal bus station probably comes with a hefty price tag!

The figures could be very different now and in the ways people get to the airport, but it gives food for thought, how much the airport is making, in just ground access to/from the airport. No wonder they can afford to keep re-configuring the the drop-off zone every few months!
Well based upon what I was told, it could actually be more than the figure you estimated. Nice calculation though.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 08:42
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There are I think 7 pay booths up from the previous 5. No queues anymore so the airport seems to have finally hit the sweet spot. Traffic flow is constant on the exit although still long queues to get in at 5:30 in the morning. LLAL have said they could tweak again the existing airports capacity to 21 million but no doubt the passengers will suffer.
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What about Bari and Tirana LGS6753?
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 11:42
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Yes, I thought there were some routes missing - I copied and pasted from the Airlineroute email. Can't see Prague there either.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 12:46
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Originally Posted by LTNman
LLAL have said they could tweak again the existing airports capacity to 21 million but no doubt the passengers will suffer.
Can they do that, I thought they were limited to 18M regardless if they laid more concrete or made better configuration of stands? Wouldn't be a shareholder at Signature hearing this, oh hang on haven't their prices risen anyhow?
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 17:30
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Ok, probably not a new thing but think needs raising - taxi touts on the increase.

Now I refuse to use Addison Lee point blank because of their blatant ripping off of customers, however local taxis hanging around the drop off zone seem to be increasing.

I got in one last Friday after a flight (and the same situation the week before) - tried to double his price. Obviously he had been waiting for a lucrative pickup and ended up with me who lives 5 minutes down the road. The first guy ended up with a £45 barrier charge who tried to plead ignorance, who was rightly ignored and threatened with police, and the second I just walked out. He then went and tried ripping off a Far Eastern family who were probably none the wiser.

I support a free market v AL, but these local drivers aren’t helping themselves and the reputation of the town and their drivers.
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 07:53
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Re taxis, just use Uber. I wouldn't touch the locals. But beware - the app will say 'meet at priority pick-up'. Well there's no such place; they go to pick-up zone B, but don't miss them as you'll end up paying extra!
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I grudgingly use Addison Lee for the convenience, particularly if my flight is late and I just want to get home. £14 for a c.7 min journey within Luton is ridiculous though. I asked earlier this year about the high prices and they told me point blank that "the airport set the prices we have to charge". I didn't believe them, but is there any truth to this?
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