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Buster there is one tiny caveat more or less everybody is in the same perilous position. Just to add to the paltry passenger numbers for this month, two TUI Boeing 737 charters f/t Istanbul and a German Airways E190 f/t Istanbul all connected with Formula 1. Plus a German Airways E190 from Copenhagen with the Icelandic Football team.
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This is countrywide, all UK airports are in dire financial straights. Cant see politicians at a National or local level will actually allow an airport to go under though, guess it just depends how much cash they can afford to keep throwing at it. Even if this so called super vaccine works, we are still looking at a minimum 6 months before any real increase in travel is likely and sadly I think the big boys like LHR and MAN will be first in the queue
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EL-AL applied for 10 additional weekly summer slots and didn't get a single one. If any new airline wanted to come to Luton in the summer they will be turned away as only DHL were successful.
Also despite the lockdown Luton Covid 19 cases have increased by 1071 to 2067 in just a week. Lockdown what lockdown as something is going wrong. It is going to be a bleak Christmas for the airport I would imagine if this is the national trend.
Also despite the lockdown Luton Covid 19 cases have increased by 1071 to 2067 in just a week. Lockdown what lockdown as something is going wrong. It is going to be a bleak Christmas for the airport I would imagine if this is the national trend.
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EL-AL applied for 10 additional weekly summer slots and didn't get a single one. If any new airline wanted to come to Luton in the summer they will be turned away as only DHL were successful.
Also despite the lockdown Luton Covid 19 cases have increased by 1071 to 2067 in just a week. Lockdown what lockdown as something is going wrong. It is going to be a bleak Christmas for the airport I would imagine if this is the national trend.
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Is this in addition to the strange lease of slots to WZZ in S20 whilst planning to startup STN ops again?
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LTNman, where are you getting your Covid figures for Luton from?
That is coming out at 142 per day and l know the figures for Luton are bad, but l have not seen any day where it has reached 140.
The UK Gov Covid web site shows 646 cases for the last 7 days provided on the 17th Nov.
That is coming out at 142 per day and l know the figures for Luton are bad, but l have not seen any day where it has reached 140.
The UK Gov Covid web site shows 646 cases for the last 7 days provided on the 17th Nov.
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There are just 3 departures today, which are all Wizz
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LTNman, where are you getting your Covid figures for Luton from?
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LTNman, thank you for your explanation, but you should have stated that they were estimated figures and not accurate official figures.
Which ever way that you look at it, we do have a problem in some areas of Luton.
Which ever way that you look at it, we do have a problem in some areas of Luton.
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In a statement in the face of large opposition to expansion of the airport Luton Council has said any proposal/development to 19m pa will require a Development Consent Order which will be determined by The Secretary of State _it will not be decided by Luton Borough Council.
Bim is still on the case...
Bim is still on the case...
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The 19m application will be decided by the Council because it can be. It will be approved by the Council because they own the airport. The application has been merged with the application to increase aircraft noise above legally agreed limits, which were breached in previous year until they got caught out, because they can. The application is being fronted by the airport concessionaire London Luton Airport Operations ltd who are the Council’s stooges.
The DCO to government is being put forward by the airport owner LLAL, which is 100% owned by the council. All three are as thick as thieves and in my opinion inherently dishonest.
The DCO to government is being put forward by the airport owner LLAL, which is 100% owned by the council. All three are as thick as thieves and in my opinion inherently dishonest.
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I would suggest that what you have read is wrong. The council don’t care about widespread opposition, as they have form in voting any and every application through that is airport related.
A few months ago Bim, who is a MP, said the expansion application to 32m had been dropped. He was soon educated, as it was just a freeze on current spending plans like for a new apron. Maybe he needs further educating if the suggestion came from him?
A few months ago Bim, who is a MP, said the expansion application to 32m had been dropped. He was soon educated, as it was just a freeze on current spending plans like for a new apron. Maybe he needs further educating if the suggestion came from him?
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As I said the three stooges are fundamentally dishonest. The report is about 19m but the Council spokesman refers to the 32m application to muddy the water and to deflect the complaints. There is no DCO for 19m.
https://www.hertsad.co.uk/news/luton...sion-1-6936186
https://www.hertsad.co.uk/news/luton...sion-1-6936186
A spokesperson from Luton Borough Council said in response to statements by those who oppose the expansion: “The council’s airport company, London Luton Airport Limited, has recently consulted on future expansion plans for which a development consent order will be required. Whether or not to approve that order will be determined by the secretary of state on the recommendation of the planning inspectorate. It will not be decided by Luton Borough Council.”
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Larger an noisier A321NEO planes, when compared to what, A320CEOs they are replacing?
Bet joe public is itching to get out for a jolly to Benidorm & Ibiza asap but I buy Tesco Vegan sausages so I'm doing my bit!
Bet joe public is itching to get out for a jolly to Benidorm & Ibiza asap but I buy Tesco Vegan sausages so I'm doing my bit!
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The argument being put forward is that the A321NEO being heavier produces more noise than existing Luton aircraft. Those putting forward the claims actually know their subject. Watching A321Neo’s taking off from my front garden last year they are certainly no quieter than the departures either side of them but it is hard to tell if they are noisier. It should be noted though that the application for 19m includes increasing the airports noise footprint.
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I can't keep up with these opposition groups. They criticise the council for giving themselves planning permission and suggest a conflict of interest, but now they say the current planning rules were 'democratically agreed'. Surely it can't be both?
Airbus NEO engines produce a distinctive noise on spool-up for take-off (and start-up). Overall, the engines are quieter than the previous generation but the new noises are noticeable!