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Money has indeed always been in short supply at Luton but when it comes to wasting money Luton has no limits.
The road markings are only just dry but much of the CTA will be dug up when the rail link, station and second multi-storey are put in.
This means a new drop off zone and new route for much of the CTA ring road. Most of the CTA dual carriageway that is keeping its location will still need to be dug up for the cut and cover rail tunnels.
Examples of extreme penny pinching includes only tarmacing the car park lanes and not the car park spaces of most of the car parks. The poor finish of the pedestrian foot bridges to the CTA car parks. The use of the cheapest materials available for the covered walkways. The extensive use of tarmac for all pedestrian areas. No air bridges or individual lifts to serve any stands. A lack of seating were there is room for seating to go.
I await with a great deal of interest how the flagship canopy will look that will define the appearance of the terminal for the next 20 years. The iconic glass roof of the first artist impressions was replaced by what looked like a series of circus tents made out of canvas. What the airport ends up with might be different again. Not long to wait now, as this new canopy should be going in after Christmas.
The road markings are only just dry but much of the CTA will be dug up when the rail link, station and second multi-storey are put in.
This means a new drop off zone and new route for much of the CTA ring road. Most of the CTA dual carriageway that is keeping its location will still need to be dug up for the cut and cover rail tunnels.
Examples of extreme penny pinching includes only tarmacing the car park lanes and not the car park spaces of most of the car parks. The poor finish of the pedestrian foot bridges to the CTA car parks. The use of the cheapest materials available for the covered walkways. The extensive use of tarmac for all pedestrian areas. No air bridges or individual lifts to serve any stands. A lack of seating were there is room for seating to go.
I await with a great deal of interest how the flagship canopy will look that will define the appearance of the terminal for the next 20 years. The iconic glass roof of the first artist impressions was replaced by what looked like a series of circus tents made out of canvas. What the airport ends up with might be different again. Not long to wait now, as this new canopy should be going in after Christmas.
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Declared distances from 7th December
Runway 08 TORA
2162m/7093ft full length
1982m/6502ft Taxiway Bravo intersection (taxiway extension)
1688m/5538ft Taxiway Hotel intersection (former Bravo)
Runway 26 TORA
2162m/7093ft full length TORA
1771m/5810ft Taxiway Alpha intersection.
The new taxiway Bravo will have a 211m longer take off run than runway 26 from Alpha.
It will be 294m longer than before.
Taxiway Bravo will still be 180m from the end of the runway.
2162m/7093ft full length
1982m/6502ft Taxiway Bravo intersection (taxiway extension)
1688m/5538ft Taxiway Hotel intersection (former Bravo)
Runway 26 TORA
2162m/7093ft full length TORA
1771m/5810ft Taxiway Alpha intersection.
The new taxiway Bravo will have a 211m longer take off run than runway 26 from Alpha.
It will be 294m longer than before.
Taxiway Bravo will still be 180m from the end of the runway.
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I think the new canopy looks OK...
I think people are more concerned about the experience through the terminal than the look from the outside, especially when the experience has been so poor in recent years.
https://roundme.com/embed/77047/193007
I think people are more concerned about the experience through the terminal than the look from the outside, especially when the experience has been so poor in recent years.
https://roundme.com/embed/77047/193007
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We will have to see what the airport ends up with. The shape of the roof means it might be made out of canvas as I can’t see it being made out of glass or plastic. Just hope it doesn’t have Billy Smart embossed in the material.
The walkway to the drop off zone was actually bought off the shelf and is used by supermarkets to store shopping trolleys so looks nothing like the artists impressions while the one serving the shuttle bus was actually never built so saved a few more pennies.
You are right about the customer experience being more important than the look but a nice experience is formed in part by the feel of the place and the materials used.
The 360 tour of inside the terminal from the link provided will properly be more accurate as there are clear signs that what is depicted is being built.
The walkway to the drop off zone was actually bought off the shelf and is used by supermarkets to store shopping trolleys so looks nothing like the artists impressions while the one serving the shuttle bus was actually never built so saved a few more pennies.
You are right about the customer experience being more important than the look but a nice experience is formed in part by the feel of the place and the materials used.
The 360 tour of inside the terminal from the link provided will properly be more accurate as there are clear signs that what is depicted is being built.
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Opening date for the new multi story and drop off zone is confirmed as 2019 which will delay the DART project as work on the new CTA station was due to start this summer.
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Planned twice weekly (Friday-Sunday) service to Crotone in Italy by FlyServus commencing in the new year.
But the proof will be in the pudding, and if this airline ever actually get the off the ground. With the likes of Powdair and FlyKiss, the airport has not done well with start-ups recently.
The airport at Crotone, which will be their hub, barely sounds a success, having previously gone bankrupt once and the only operator before that was Ryanair, which pulled out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crotone_Airport
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Well the proposed service to Crotone, if it ever happens, looks like one I wouldn't touch with a barge pole.
FlyServus (paper airline) says flights operated by Common Sky. But Common Sky doesn't operate Boeing B735s. They appear to have some tie up with AirX Charter, who do operate that type, so perhaps they are the real operator.
Oh, and no slots requested yet.
Non-starter or, if it starts, gone within a few weeks I reckon.
FlyServus (paper airline) says flights operated by Common Sky. But Common Sky doesn't operate Boeing B735s. They appear to have some tie up with AirX Charter, who do operate that type, so perhaps they are the real operator.
Oh, and no slots requested yet.
Non-starter or, if it starts, gone within a few weeks I reckon.
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Especially considering that they intend starting operations in the middle of winter to a little known airport in a sparsely populated area in Italy with no business links, it's got failure written all over it.
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Calabria region-sunshine and wealth.
In Summer 1995, rumor went around that a new airline was coming to LTN and that it was going to charge passengers the same price to fly as buying a 'pair of jeans'. Everyone I spoke to back then stated it would not last and it would be impossible to survive. As we all know, that airline went on to become Britain's largest airline in terms of passengers and 3rd busiest in Europe today.
Bedford not far from Luton has a large Italian population and Calabria region has lots to offer. So with that thought in mind I hope the new service is successful and at least is given a chance.
I wonder what new airline will be announced next...
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The airport wanted it opening with the relevant important people there.
Don't forget updates to EFPS, SMR, Lighting panel and documents to name a few to be completed overnight and a transition period for all ATC staff and crews.
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You also need to be realistic and once you do a bit of background research things don't look good and the business plan non-existent.
- The flights will be operated by Common Sky on behalf of FlyServus, and it states they will use 737's. Common Sky don't even operate this type of aircraft.
- Crotone Airport has been shut since November 2016.
- Crotone Airport went into Bankruptcy in 2015, and Ryanair has been the only airline to use the airport and they stopped flying there!
- The airlines website looks like something developed 10-15 years ago and booking section looks homemade or is otherwise fake, with prices of 195 Euro's in each direction!
- Neither Crotone or Luton Airport's website make any mention of this new airline.
- The new route is meant to start on the 12th January, they better do some major advertising to fill that first flight!
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November passenger statistics just been released. A total of 1,008,184 passengers used used the airport in November UP 5.5 per cent. Rolling 12 month the figure 15,517,231up 10.3 per cent. All you lot who said there would be a downturn due to the demise of Monarch have been proved wrong. Told you so.
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November passenger statistics just been released. A total of 1,008,184 passengers used used the airport in November UP 5.5 per cent. Rolling 12 month the figure 15,517,231up 10.3 per cent. All you lot who said there would be a downturn due to the demise of Monarch have been proved wrong. Told you so.
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Nice to be invited 
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Well yes jolly good... an increase is an increase is an increase.
It defies credibility tho not to see the numbers in November are reflecting the loss of MON hence a much smaller % increase last month compared even with the rolling 12 months figure quoted.
But anyways next November`s figures will reflect well with Wizz UK taking up that slack.
)Well yes jolly good... an increase is an increase is an increase.
It defies credibility tho not to see the numbers in November are reflecting the loss of MON hence a much smaller % increase last month compared even with the rolling 12 months figure quoted.
But anyways next November`s figures will reflect well with Wizz UK taking up that slack.