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The council in their documentation for airport expansion have not stated how traffic will travel the last mile from the A505 to the second terminal. They mention the locations of new sets of traffic lights that will be required from the junction of the A1M by Stevenage at junction 10 and changes to road junctions in Hitchin but then nothing.
They do mention that 7 sets of traffic lights will be required on residential roads of Wigmore in a half mile square area without stating that local residents streets will become the default route from the A1M to terminal 2. Any other council would be up in arms at proposals to use a local road network that does not even have a B road within it but this council is out of control with no respect for local public opinions.
They do mention that 7 sets of traffic lights will be required on residential roads of Wigmore in a half mile square area without stating that local residents streets will become the default route from the A1M to terminal 2. Any other council would be up in arms at proposals to use a local road network that does not even have a B road within it but this council is out of control with no respect for local public opinions.
Perhaps this will prove to be the straw that gets the council to sort the ongoing route A5 - M1 (done) M1 - A6 - A505 ( still in consultation stage ) then link to T2. From Jansell House / Wigmore. Can't see it in my lifetime
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Central Beds are due to sit on 8th Jan 20 to make a decision. Central Bedfordshire Council Planning Pages
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It has only ever appeared as a dotted line on a map around 20 years ago. It will happen one day but so far it is not officially sanctioned and will be the last bit of the Eastern/ Northern ring road to be completed. Whether that is in 5 years or 20 years time is anyone guess but you can bet Luton Council is keen for it to be built except it is in Hertfordshire so they will have no say.
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Written by locals who are facing a new terminal and all the health hazards that will bring, being built literally on their doorstep. Judging by what I have been told, garnering considerable support locally and politically for the work they are doing in highlighting the huge financial gamble allegedly being taking by a borough council.
A good summary there.....I am pro-airport in many ways but this current Council needs to be held to account. Those who simply support expansion at any cost need to realise that if this was any other major UK airport the situation would be far more balanced and local residents would at least have a local Council who might actually listen!
A good summary there.....I am pro-airport in many ways but this current Council needs to be held to account. Those who simply support expansion at any cost need to realise that if this was any other major UK airport the situation would be far more balanced and local residents would at least have a local Council who might actually listen!
Anyway, what does a bear know about aviation in York.
Gross numbers probably won't change much from now on until the planning cap is raised.
WZZ are using more A321s than 320s now, EZY more A320s than 319s, The WUK flights are almost all A321, but MON were using more 320s.
WZZ are using more A321s than 320s now, EZY more A320s than 319s, The WUK flights are almost all A321, but MON were using more 320s.
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The true figure is actually 18,127,372 and not the nonsense that is given to the council in a conspiracy of deception and even that figure does not include bizjets passengers. The cap imposed by the airport operator is actually to the number of movements and not the number of passengers although by restricting moments this would restrict passengers. The figures could just mean the passenger growth bubble has burst like it has at Stansted and has nothing to do with any cap imposed by the operator seeing ATM’s have dropped but that drop could include biz jet movements.
Neither the airport or the airlines would control how many empty seats are left on each aircraft and these figures reflects empty seats particularly in November as aircraft rarely arrive and depart full.
Neither the airport or the airlines would control how many empty seats are left on each aircraft and these figures reflects empty seats particularly in November as aircraft rarely arrive and depart full.
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There isn’t one that I know of, it is just an arrangement between LLAOL and LLAL/ Luton council not to increase movements. I assume there was quite a few new routes that started at the latter end of last year which would need to be added to by more new routes this year to sustain growth. Didn’t Wizz start new routes with its Monarch slots last November but has added no new based aircraft this year?
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Found this in the end. https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...EMBER-2019.pdf
First paragraph mentions a movement cap for the winter so it looks like it has started.
For the summer the airport has put in a seat capacity cap instead of a movement cap.
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...eclaration.pdf
If all those seats are reserved for the summer then Luton will not get any Euro football charters.
Also has the airport given each airline a quota dependent on their last years figures? Could seats be traded?
Southend will do well out of these restrictions as airlines go down the pecking order. Could also explain why Wizz opened a base on the Essex coast.
First paragraph mentions a movement cap for the winter so it looks like it has started.
Seasonal Movement Cap
A seasonal limit of 39,129 commercial passenger movements will apply
A seasonal limit of 39,129 commercial passenger movements will apply
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...eclaration.pdf
Seasonal PATM Seat Limit
A total limit of 12,880,000 seats will apply across all Passenger Air Transport Movements coordinated in the S20 season.
A total limit of 12,880,000 seats will apply across all Passenger Air Transport Movements coordinated in the S20 season.
Also has the airport given each airline a quota dependent on their last years figures? Could seats be traded?
Southend will do well out of these restrictions as airlines go down the pecking order. Could also explain why Wizz opened a base on the Essex coast.
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That approved stretch of road has no impact on the airport. Only if the next two sections are put in will it make a difference.
The hypocrisy of Luton Council knows no bounds as they strongly objected to the road claiming that Central Beds did not listen to their objections, as they claimed it would add pollution and traffic to the March Farm council estates. At the same time they were and still are promoting airport expansion and promoting using local roads as the main access route from the A505 and the A1M to T2 while they also refuse to listen to objections.
I have found that most Luton Councillors are zombies and are incapable of independent thought. I suspect that many have been to Pakistan more times than they have been to the wards that will be mostly affected by airport expansion and are just not interested in the people who live in this part of town.
The hypocrisy of Luton Council knows no bounds as they strongly objected to the road claiming that Central Beds did not listen to their objections, as they claimed it would add pollution and traffic to the March Farm council estates. At the same time they were and still are promoting airport expansion and promoting using local roads as the main access route from the A505 and the A1M to T2 while they also refuse to listen to objections.
I have found that most Luton Councillors are zombies and are incapable of independent thought. I suspect that many have been to Pakistan more times than they have been to the wards that will be mostly affected by airport expansion and are just not interested in the people who live in this part of town.
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Of course every time the State build a road it is not for the fun of things, it is so they can prepare access for the housing and light industry to follow.
I submit the housing springing up beside the M1-A5 link
But back to the argument of T2
Assuming T1 is currently handling 18m will they allow the Airport Capacity to rise to 36m? On a single Runway?
I submit the housing springing up beside the M1-A5 link
But back to the argument of T2
Assuming T1 is currently handling 18m will they allow the Airport Capacity to rise to 36m? On a single Runway?
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Yes it is all about maximising the use of the single runway. Luton will get to 22.5 million passengers without a second terminal by expanding the existing terminal by in-filling some of the pavement fronting the terminal by the Eastern Apron.
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Construction update
With the Dart opening next year this new wibbly wobbly roofed walkway and bus shelter will be redundant even though it has just been installed. It is unique to this side of the bus station and does not match the off the shelf design found on the other side.
The top two floors of the second multi story are due to open sometime on Friday. As can be seen, only one lift out of three has been commissioned. When it has been broken there is no alternative but to climb the stairs, which at the moment are also closed.
The final stages of the new route for the ring road are having its foundations laid. This will remove traffic from the side of Taxiway Delta. As mentioned before the former drop off area is now where meet and greet customers cars end up. This area is marked up on plans as a new apron with a pier running alongside the ring road.
Work on digging out one of two missing sections of tunnel continues. The other one is by Taxiway Alpha and the existing road tunnel.
Central Station. Concrete walls are being installed either end of the platform
The areas around the strange structures in the foreground are having scaffolding and boarding erected. There are still no holes between the ground and first floor for lifts, stairs and escalators in the station. Plans show the station continuing to head in the direction of the camera so maybe this will be a foot passenger safety area while work continues above their heads.
The top two floors of the second multi story are due to open sometime on Friday. As can be seen, only one lift out of three has been commissioned. When it has been broken there is no alternative but to climb the stairs, which at the moment are also closed.
The final stages of the new route for the ring road are having its foundations laid. This will remove traffic from the side of Taxiway Delta. As mentioned before the former drop off area is now where meet and greet customers cars end up. This area is marked up on plans as a new apron with a pier running alongside the ring road.
Work on digging out one of two missing sections of tunnel continues. The other one is by Taxiway Alpha and the existing road tunnel.
Central Station. Concrete walls are being installed either end of the platform
The areas around the strange structures in the foreground are having scaffolding and boarding erected. There are still no holes between the ground and first floor for lifts, stairs and escalators in the station. Plans show the station continuing to head in the direction of the camera so maybe this will be a foot passenger safety area while work continues above their heads.
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