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Old 24th Jul 2019, 17:10
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2 stands for biz jets 6 stands for terminal passengers? South east location doesn't give many options.
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 20:09
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Perhaps the airport are thinking about building some new stands to allow some slack during busy periods such as diversions / bad weather, rather than holding aircraft at B5 backwards.

Long shot, but who knows!
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 21:15
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They are not going to spend millions unless there is a profit to be made. That profit won’t come for diversions etc. New stands followed by modifications to the terminal means more passengers once the council has given itself planning permission to breach 18 million.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 01:06
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Originally Posted by Falcon666 View Post
Stands 1R-8 to be reconstructed ? whatís this about?

New South East stands split build of a two and six pack ?

cost £22 million.

Also Tender out to replace both escalators from security to Duty Free next Spring
Is the tender in addition to the tender as shown on #2044 on this thread?
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 07:55
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Originally Posted by pabely View Post
Is the tender in addition to the tender as shown on #2044 on this thread?
I am guessing it’s one and the same. originally that Tender was for the design aspect of the Stands and this latest Tender is for the the design team to work with the construction company that win .
I am still thinking this is not the planned Apron on the current drop off zone , (as LTNman says you can only get four stands in that location. ) but the one by the Run Up Bay.
As Dannyboy39 was saying it could help with holding a/c if the concrete is poured at that location but I am sure that’s not the real reason.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 09:52
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Originally Posted by Falcon666 View Post


I am guessing itís one and the same. originally that Tender was for the design aspect of the Stands and this latest Tender is for the the design team to work with the construction company that win .
I am still thinking this is not the planned Apron on the current drop off zone , (as LTNman says you can only get four stands in that location. ) but the one by the Run Up Bay.
As Dannyboy39 was saying it could help with holding a/c if the concrete is poured at that location but I am sure thatís not the real reason.
I agree, some sort of remote stands for the overnights, and then can be pulled back onto terminal stands once the early departures free them up.
Then again this could be used more to where traditionally Biz are put on the Pond or Cargo and would give fast access to runway (subject to traffic).
When they resurface stands 1A to 8 then there will be a loss of parking at that point anyhow.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 17:42
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 View Post
Perhaps the airport are thinking about building some new stands to allow some slack during busy periods such as diversions / bad weather, rather than holding aircraft at B5 backwards.

Long shot, but who knows!
New stands "just in case"? That'll be a first!
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 18:20
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New stands are not required for 18 million passengers, not during the day or during the night so there is another reason.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 19:13
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Luton flights circling

Ltn bound traffic circling and a/c on taxiway not moving. Does anyone know why?
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 19:19
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Two aircraft on finals did missed approaches with nothing on the runway. Aircraft seem to be landing again but several in the hold. Lightning to the east but a fair way off. Landings on 08.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 19:47
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LGW, LTN and STN Departures Halted Due to large scale storms building in London TMA
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 09:34
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
New stands are not required for 18 million passengers, not during the day or during the night so there is another reason.
Read the latest planning applications. LLAOL want to add capacity to 19 million but then claim they don't need to build any new infrastructure that hasn't already been approved. These stands are not part of any old planning application so that statement is total rubbish.

This has been put in by the operator but will have been promoted by LLAL and the Council who will once again just approve the plan with no scrutiny.
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 09:55
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TUIs ever decreasing presence in LTN

Below is a summary of the number of based aircraft, number of weekly departures and routes operated over the last 3 summer seasons:

Summer 2017
3x based aircraft
38x flights (All operated by TUI)
22x routes

Summer 2018
2x based aircraft (-1)
33x flights (-5) (28x flights operated by based TUI aircraft / 1x operated by TUI w-pattern / 4x flights operated by other carriers - AEA, FHY etc)
21x routes (-1)

Summer 2019
2x based aircraft
27x flights (-6) (27x operated by based TUI aircraft)
20x routes (-1)

Summer 2020 - provisional plan
1.6x based aircraft (1x aircraft based all week, 1x aircraft split between LTN (Mon-Thu) and BOH (Fri-Sun))
20x flights (-7) (20x operated by based TUI aircraft)
15x routes (-5)
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 12:23
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Originally Posted by Severn View Post
TUIs ever decreasing presence in LTN

Below is a summary of the number of based aircraft, number of weekly departures and routes operated over the last 3 summer seasons:

Summer 2017
3x based aircraft
38x flights (All operated by TUI)
22x routes

Summer 2018
2x based aircraft (-1)
33x flights (-5) (28x flights operated by based TUI aircraft / 1x operated by TUI w-pattern / 4x flights operated by other carriers - AEA, FHY etc)
21x routes (-1)

Summer 2019
2x based aircraft
27x flights (-6) (27x operated by based TUI aircraft)
20x routes (-1)

Summer 2020 - provisional plan
1.6x based aircraft (1x aircraft based all week, 1x aircraft split between LTN (Mon-Thu) and BOH (Fri-Sun))
20x flights (-7) (20x operated by based TUI aircraft)
15x routes (-5)
Is it a possibility that no airline can plan ahead until planning allow an increase on the current 18 million pax per year which potentially can be reached by December 31st this year?

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Old 26th Jul 2019, 12:40
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Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street View Post


Is it a possibility that no airline can plan ahead until planning allow an increase on the current 18 million pax per year which potentially can be reached by December 31st this year?

I doubt that, as Wizzair bring more 321s online and EZY retire 319s then numbers will increase anyhow. More likely the Jet2 effect from up the road.
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 12:44
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
They are not going to spend millions unless there is a profit to be made. That profit wonít come for diversions etc. New stands followed by modifications to the terminal means more passengers once the council has given itself planning permission to breach 18 million.
As you say spend millions for flight of fancy. A sound business would have a commitment from mutiple airlines for the use of these already, more based frames, WZZ, EZY, RYR?
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 16:25
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Looking at the TUI schedule for 2020 the second aircraft based there hardly operates a full
schedule at the moment with Wednesday and Thursday only flying in July /Aug peak
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 16:33
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Originally Posted by Severn View Post
TUIs ever decreasing presence in LTN

Below is a summary of the number of based aircraft, number of weekly departures and routes operated over the last 3 summer seasons:

Summer 2017
3x based aircraft
38x flights (All operated by TUI)
22x routes

Summer 2018
2x based aircraft (-1)
33x flights (-5) (28x flights operated by based TUI aircraft / 1x operated by TUI w-pattern / 4x flights operated by other carriers - AEA, FHY etc)
21x routes (-1)

Summer 2019
2x based aircraft
27x flights (-6) (27x operated by based TUI aircraft)
20x routes (-1)

Summer 2020 - provisional plan
1.6x based aircraft (1x aircraft based all week, 1x aircraft split between LTN (Mon-Thu) and BOH (Fri-Sun))
20x flights (-7) (20x operated by based TUI aircraft)
15x routes (-5)
The LTN reductions have been even more significant than your post mentions and youíll see discussion of this somewhere in the TUI thread.

For the vast majority of S19, LTN is one based aircraft (757). Only in the last week or so has a second aircraft (738) arrived to operate some peak season flights and will only be around for a few more weeks before it reverts to one aircraft. So next year isnít a huge reduction and may even be an increase in the off-peak summer provided TUI base the second (albeit part time) aircraft from May-October.
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 17:09
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I stopped using TUI when their Luton supplements were so high. Just felt like a rip off for wanting to use a local airport so they lost me.
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 10:27
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TUI's LTN program has certainly reduced over the last few Summers with various reasons apparent. The main one being TUI now uses EZY for many holidays ex LTN to a lot of destinations previously flown in-house. This also allows more flexibility with holiday duration's to the more popular destinations. This year, apart from the second TUI aircraft based during the six weeks of the peak Summer holidays, outside of this period there are a number of "W" pattern flights operated by non-based aircraft on at least two days a week (two on Fridays) Also, next Summer will reportedly see only 737's based with the 757's planned to be operated only from LGW, MAN & BHX.
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