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Old 13th Jul 2019, 22:17
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Airport website now taking bookings from w/c 19 Aug for the new car park.


They are going to open one floor at a time but seeing they have yet to install any lifts or even finish concreting a single floor or ramp they will be chasing the clock. In some areas the steelwork has only just gone in with daylight between the floors.
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 22:50
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LTNman - I think you are being a bit harsh on Luton compared to Gatwick.
Gatwick has the luxury of far more acres of land and a longer runway. 3 years ago, Luton was cheap and nasty. The terminal extension with the new shops has tried to target a slightly wealthier passenger.

However Luton seems to feel far more overcrowded than other airports leading to the grotty feeling overall. This will only really be resolved by the airport having a bigger area of land to use
That said, most airports would consider overcrowding and too many pax, to be a nice problem to have
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Old 14th Jul 2019, 00:31
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Rumours of cash flow tightening.
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Old 14th Jul 2019, 07:02
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
LTNman - I think you are being a bit harsh on Luton compared to Gatwick.
Gatwick has the luxury of far more acres of land and a longer runway. 3 years ago, Luton was cheap and nasty. The terminal extension with the new shops has tried to target a slightly wealthier passenger.

However Luton seems to feel far more overcrowded than other airports leading to the grotty feeling overall. This will only really be resolved by the airport having a bigger area of land to use
That said, most airports would consider overcrowding and too many pax, to be a nice problem to have
The upmarket shops are always devoid of any passengers apart from the occasional Romanian shoplifter so I have been wondering how long most of them will last. Also it seems a great waste of terminal floor space having shops containing zero passengers for most of the time when a Greggs would attract the masses.

As for Luton needing a bigger area of space I think I would prefer to keep my local park which is one of the three biggest in the town. The offer of a replacement field in Hertfordshire is no substitute to a mature much loved local amenity.

Also anyone wondered what a second terminal would look like? Another grot box comes to mind that will be built on the cheap with again every pipe and heating duct on show. I am still staggered daily how bad the ground floor infill looks as it doesn’t get any better with time and all because they didn’t put a ceiling in to save a few pounds.

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Old 15th Jul 2019, 11:24
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I am still staggered daily how bad the ground floor infill looks as it doesn’t get any better with time and all because they didn’t put a ceiling in to save a few pounds.
Well, well, well. The arrivals waiting area is starting to get a black small square suspended ceiling. If I stand directly below it and look up I can see through it but the square grid pattern is so small it hides almost everything. The lighting doesn't line up so the ceiling lights are going to have to be moved. So I guess the question is will the whole of the ground floor infill get covered or just the arrivals waiting area where meeters and greeters just stand around for long periods looking at their surroundings.
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 18:58
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I know this isn't politically correct, but with your now long-standing obsession with ceilings and repeated posts along the lines of below, you do often come across as being a sad little man.
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The upmarket shops are always devoid of any passengers apart from the occasional Romanian shoplifter
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 19:55
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I don't think that comment is justified Manx.The way in which LTN mgmt (all owners) have saved money over the last 35 years (that I have been using the airport) shows up everywhere. You only have to look at the artists drawings that were used to sell the ideas - and the reality. LTNman (whom I do not know and have never met) simply points out their own failings. If they had shown the ceilings as gaping holes - that would be what they intended.
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 20:05
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Personally I am not bothered about the ceilings etc is is the other comments that I find rather sad, but of course there are many little Englanders that the world ends at Dover.
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 20:49
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Originally Posted by Manx View Post
I know this isn't politically correct, but with your now long-standing obsession with ceilings and repeated posts along the lines of below, you do often come across as being a sad little man.
Ha Ha I am laughing now. Yes I have had an obsession with the ceilings. When £160 million has been spent I would hope for a better visual statement. Passenger impressions are based on many things including subconscious thoughts caused by visual impacts and the physical experience like long queues. Luton has been firmly routed in bottom position for the last few years and I don’t like it. Maybe that doesn’t bother those that are just interested in counting numbers but I have high standards of what I call acceptable.

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Old 15th Jul 2019, 22:44
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I know this isn't politically correct, but with your now long-standing obsession with ceilings and repeated posts along the lines of below, you do often come across as being a sad little man.
As well as the racism which is a big shame it is spectacularly naive as to the economics of “upmarket” retail...if the units were busy and sales made in volume by definition the product wouldn’t be exclusive. Income from 1 Gucci handbag = 40+ Accessorise handbags.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 07:12
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As I tire of seeing the same faces as we weave our way towards the passport control desks, my eyes look upward towards the open ducting in the ceiling.
They are caked in thick dust. My mind wonders as to the origin of such particulates and their affect on passenger health. I'm just amazed it's not considered a fire hazard.
As to the shops, I'm always puzzled why slices of Spanish ham are being elegantly cut from large joints in full public view. That and the leather Gucci handbags next door must be giving travelling Vegans apoplectic shock. 😂
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 11:51
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Construction update

The arrivals waiting area is getting some much needed attention. We will have to wait and see how far the great cover up will extend. All the light fittings which are attached to angle iron will have to be moved to line up with the gaps.


Meanwhile at the other end of the terminal public areas are still covered with hoardings as this area has remained untouched now for 8 months.


The airport are now selling parking spaces for the second multi story that will open on 19th August. As can be seen there must be some doubt whether the car park will open on time. This photo shows the lift shafts with no lifts and each floor with no concrete. Just in shot is what will be the exit ramp minus a ramp.


At the other end the exit routes from the drop off zone that will be contained within the ground floor of the multi story will face the south apron.


Just inside the CTA by the road tunnel can be seen the middle concrete wall that will divide the 2 tracks. On the far side the wall linings to the tunnel are going in.


Looks like the station boundary.


At Parkway the first floor is being boarded out so concrete can be poured. In the distance can be seen the viaduct supports for the track. Behind the photo British Rail contractors have made a start on the footbridge that will cross the track for access to and from the DART. They also have their own compound which is also behind the photo on the other side of the footpath.

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Old 18th Jul 2019, 11:19
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Excellent pictures and updates as always LTNman. Much appreciated
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Old 18th Jul 2019, 19:12
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Smell of New Paint within Terminal today. LLA Technical services touching up Pillars. Checked Royal Engagements and surprise The Princes Royal (princes Anne) is due to open Terminal extension on July 30 2019.
Also this possibly is the reason that a ceiling is going in and growing in the arrivals area.
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 00:46
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Gosh wot a suprize
If only a Royal would visit every week ...
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 07:43
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Smell of New Paint within Terminal today. LLA Technical services touching up Pillars. Checked Royal Engagements and surprise The Princes Royal (princes Anne) is due to open Terminal extension on July 30 2019.
Also this possibly is the reason that a ceiling is going in and growing in the arrivals area.
the terminal that isn’t finished yet?
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 08:00
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Excellent pictures and updates as always LTNman. Much appreciated


Thanks, I know there is always an interest in the continuing changes at the airport which seem to be never ending.

Smell of New Paint within Terminal today. LLA Technical services touching up Pillars. Checked Royal Engagements and surprise The Princes Royal (princes Anne) is due to open Terminal extension on July 30 2019.
Also this possibly is the reason that a ceiling is going in and growing in the arrivals area.
It has already been officially open once by the Transport secretary Chris Grayling, Maybe with him being a Tory and the council run by Labour they will be removing the plague with his name on it by the entrance for a new one rather having two.

Just before the first grand opening last December the airport spent a good week hiring in a chewing gum removal company to clear the pavements. That company has been back again so I thought something was happening. They also brought in LLA plant containers containing small hedges to adorn the front of the terminal. They are still there but as no one has bothered watering them the hedges are now all dead. Also for the last visit the broken floor tiles that have been there for years were dug out and replaced in the area he was to visit while the areas he did not visit were left. Got to say more floor tiles have been replaced since then so maybe Princes Ann will be doing a walkabout before heading into Burger King or Costa for a quick bite.

I do find it annoying that for the million plus passengers that use the airport each month the wear and tear replacement budget is zero but it just takes a single VIP to visit and out comes the paint brushes and Jif.

As for the terminal being finished it all depends on what you call finished. Easyjet and BlueAir customer service counters are still in temporary areas inside the check-in area rather than in recesses that remain undeveloped and covered in more hoardings .

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Old 19th Jul 2019, 08:13
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Thanks, I know there is always an interest in the continuing changes at the airport which seem to be never ending.



It has already been officially open once by the Transport secretary Chris Grayling, Maybe with him being a Tory and the council run by Labour they will be removing the plague with his name on it by the entrance for a new one rather having two.

Just before the first grand opening last December the airport spent a good week hiring in a chewing gum removal company to clear the pavements. That company has been back again so I thought something was happening. They also brought in LLA plant containers containing small hedges to adorn the front of the terminal. They are still there but as no one has bothered watering them the hedges are now all dead. Also for the last visit the broken floor tiles that have been there for years were dug out and replaced in the area he was to visit while the areas he did not visit were left. Got to say more floor tiles have been replaced since then so maybe Princes Ann will be doing a walkabout before heading into Burger King or Costa for a quick bite.

I do find it annoying that for the million plus passengers that use the airport each month the wear and tear replacement budget is zero but it just takes a single VIP to visit and out comes the paint brushes and Jif.

As for the terminal being finished it all depends on what you call finished. Easyjet and BlueAir customer service counters are still in temporary areas inside the check-in area rather than in recesses that remain undeveloped and covered in more hoardings .

When wad the originaĺ terminal opened and by whom? Answers on a postcard and returned to PO Box 12345.....
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 11:49
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When wad the originaĺ terminal opened and by whom? Answers on a postcard and returned to PO Box 12345.....
Ha Ha define original? Prince Charles opened the upgraded 1968? terminal after they built a covered bus lane in front of it and put a globe on a plinth inside the check-in area. The queen opened the existing terminal in 1999 and now we have Princess Ann. The Duke of Edinburgh arrived by helicopter but I cant remember why or when.
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 12:37
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Ha Ha define original? Prince Charles opened the upgraded 1968? terminal after they built a covered bus lane in front of it and put a globe on a plinth inside the check-in area. The queen opened the existing terminal in 1999 and now we have Princess Ann. The Duke of Edinburgh arrived by helicopter but I cant remember why or when.
The one with the covered bus lane I was thinking if! 1968 was a little before my time! We had one Royal arrive on 747 but that was a diversion from LHR if I remember correctly!
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