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Interesting 're engineering base.
Norwegian do use MAEL at BHX .. but to muddy the water, Boeing are to build a new hangar at Gatwick(pictures show it looking very similar to the BHX hangar) and will also take up to 2 77W types.
Reported to be going to Norwegian under Boeing gold care.
If Norwegian do buy MAEL as well, will they cancel the Gatwick hangar.. (work not started on it yet) or can they find enough work for both ?
Interesting 're engineering base.
Norwegian do use MAEL at BHX .. but to muddy the water, Boeing are to build a new hangar at Gatwick(pictures show it looking very similar to the BHX hangar) and will also take up to 2 77W types.
Reported to be going to Norwegian under Boeing gold care.
If Norwegian do buy MAEL as well, will they cancel the Gatwick hangar.. (work not started on it yet) or can they find enough work for both ?
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The CMA is the Competition and Markets Authority which would look at the dominance of easyJet slots at Gatwick and Luton if they have an unfair advantage over other operators if they got the slots at both airport's which Monarch have at the moment.
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The only airline I can think of who has ever tried to move from an entirely short haul operation directly into an entirely long haul one was Excalibur, who went from a quality and reliable operation flying new A320s into bankruptcy very quickly after the market decided flying old DC10s wasn't a profitable venture.
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Certain employees have been informed today that flights to New York should be available as early as May 2018 and that a significant press release/announcement will be made tomorrow - 29/09/17.
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It’s a shame some employees can’t keep their mouth shut , we were told that it was sensitive information and not be released to the public , especially on a forum where spotters and trouble makers are on the loose . But I guess it is only tomorrow (w have known for a few days)
But yes 2 flights a day from BHX-JFK starting next year on the 737 , Boston should be announced soon
Also widebody aircraft & standard bucket and spade routes eg. Florida , LAX , carribean etc.
Supposedly a tie up with NAS but staying Monarch because of the brand .
Monarch will act as a more premium LH , people are still willing to pay a bit extra for a nicer experience etc
But yes 2 flights a day from BHX-JFK starting next year on the 737 , Boston should be announced soon
Also widebody aircraft & standard bucket and spade routes eg. Florida , LAX , carribean etc.
Supposedly a tie up with NAS but staying Monarch because of the brand .
Monarch will act as a more premium LH , people are still willing to pay a bit extra for a nicer experience etc
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Some wiz kid managed to find the BHX-JFK on the crew portal but it was quickly taken down , I assume it would be because of the Primera threat next year .
Personally I think it would be madness if MON didn’t do widebody routes from BHX such a huge catchment area ! Especially with the over capacity at the other airports
Personally I think it would be madness if MON didn’t do widebody routes from BHX such a huge catchment area ! Especially with the over capacity at the other airports
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Snapper, twice daily BHX-JFK? Wow!
I wish them the best of luck on this one, but I can't say I have an amazingly good feeling about this. Fingers well and truly crossed for them though
I wish them the best of luck on this one, but I can't say I have an amazingly good feeling about this. Fingers well and truly crossed for them though
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Yeah i try and stay upbeat , but i must admit that i am slightly worried about this one .
I am so fed up being run by Greybull though ! its almost like a yearly scare like last year with the very late ATOL renewal horrendous !
all they want is to make money ! they could not give a monkeys about us . I have absolutely no idea how this will pan out for us , i just hope we dont get too shafted , some great guys and girls here it will be a huge shame
I am so fed up being run by Greybull though ! its almost like a yearly scare like last year with the very late ATOL renewal horrendous !
all they want is to make money ! they could not give a monkeys about us . I have absolutely no idea how this will pan out for us , i just hope we dont get too shafted , some great guys and girls here it will be a huge shame
That's the worst possible outcome for BHX, possibly too for the airlines slugging it out in a fares war as a result of which neither will make money, and in all probability both would withdraw.
If I were Monarch I might be thinking of NCL / NYC where (so far) they would have no competition.
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I'm pretty sure we all said the same thing when Madrid when from 0x operators to 4x operators, and 3 are still doing well 3 years later!
I think the opposite. AA and UA proved there was a market for this route in 2016 with both flying to NYC. They carried just short of 150,000 pax in a year. Now yes, there will be a proportion of pax transiting through NYC but then these were always higher costing routes, helping to re-enforce a perception of BHX being an expensive airport...
We now have an opportunity to attract a market to BHX in the way that NAX has done at LGW and TCX has done to MAN.
I think the opposite. AA and UA proved there was a market for this route in 2016 with both flying to NYC. They carried just short of 150,000 pax in a year. Now yes, there will be a proportion of pax transiting through NYC but then these were always higher costing routes, helping to re-enforce a perception of BHX being an expensive airport...
We now have an opportunity to attract a market to BHX in the way that NAX has done at LGW and TCX has done to MAN.