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Old 27th Sep 2017, 10:39
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Or main customer in the facility is Flybe, yes there are 787's but you cannot over look the importance of the Q400 and Embraer that are worked here! It's bread and butter of the hangar
I don't think that's going to be the case much past next spring....
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 10:40
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Originally Posted by In Mon I Trust
Or main customer in the facility is Flybe, yes there are 787's but you cannot over look the importance of the Q400 and Embraer that are worked here! It's bread and butter of the hangar
Erm on the Fly Be Pprune thread 10 days ago it claimed that the airline is taking it's maintenance in house and will not be renewing it's contract with MAEL ?
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 10:56
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Might be good thing for monarch in the long run , Free up space for what the hangar was designed to do which is wide body work , Not faffing about with puddle jumpers
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 11:50
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As a mechanic I am happy to work on any aircraft and can do so quite easily. The licensed guys I work with are happy to have both the 'puddle jumpers' and the large aircraft as they see benefit of having both on their tickets. My point was purely that whilst the big aircraft are a turn on for some people you cannot deny the steady stream of work the Q400 and Embraer bring and associated income for the company. If they replace that stream then fair enough, but why turn down steady work which has filled 50% of the hangar for years.

I guess the possible move which you talk of not doing 3rd party work (Q400 and EMB) must be a concern at the line stations which are manned for such activities, as I see it the 8 or so puddle jumpers per night and busy movements during the day provide security. A long haul operation and 8 brand new 737 max could unfortunately open the exit doors for those unqualified on types?
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 12:01
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Originally Posted by nigel osborne
Erm on the Fly Be Pprune thread 10 days ago it claimed that the airline is taking it's maintenance in house and will not be renewing it's contract with MAEL ?
No reflection on MAEL its about to coin a phrase " taking back control"
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:30
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Interestingly WZZ now added to the mix....WZZ interested in the UK AOC not so much the existing short haul destinations & network..
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:32
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LC-Riese Norwegian will Monarch kaufen :: DMM Der Mobilitätsmanager

Roughly translated Norwegian are to buy the group
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:42
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Actually it translates as 'would like to buy' rather than 'are buying' According to Sky News, Easy, Norwegian and Wizz have all submitted bids to buy parts of the company.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 17:51
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It also states they are looking to buy the whole group which is what i hear monarch would prefer
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 18:05
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http://news.sky.com/story/monarch-lands-easyjet-bid-for-troubled-short-haul-network-11056276
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 18:29
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Confirms what I have been hearing, apart from little word on Jet2 - Monarch as we know it will likely be sold in parts, with easyJet, Norwegian etc all looking to buy certain bits which are right for them.

That German article is a bit light on detail.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 18:41
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Whose going to want which bits? Easy for LGW and LTN?
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 18:43
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Norwegian are after the Gatwick slots, and I presume easy are doing the same. Sounds like Wizz is after the AOC to get a UK AOC - Jet2 have been mentioned to me a lot, but seems to be quite quiet.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 18:57
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Dont know who but i hear one of the companies is in talks with the owners to but the whole shooting natch including the engineering side
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 19:10
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The article suggests monarch remain in long Haul? What will happen with the crews?
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 19:15
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Given the types they operate ,Monarchs gold care approval from boeing plus the fact they already maintain their aircraft in the uk might suggest the engineering arm may also be of interest to Norwegian
Given the projected size of the fleet one potential maintenance provider with a bloody great hangar at brum that currently carries out 787 maintenance may make sense
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 19:45
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Bringantree

Interesting 're engineering base.

Norwegian do use MAEL at BHX .. but to muddy the water, Boeing are to build a new hangar at Gatwick(pictures show it looking very similar to the BHX hangar) and will also take up to 2 77W types.

Reported to be going to Norwegian under Boeing gold care.

If Norwegian do buy MAEL as well, will they cancel the Gatwick hangar.. (work not started on it yet) or can they find enough work for both ?
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 20:10
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Monarch takeover - CMA issues

I am guessing that easy have @ 45% of LGW slots? (someone correct me?)
Don't know what percentage easy have at LTN but it must be quite high.
I am sure that easy would like to grow at Manchester and maybe establish Birmingham as a real base too.
What I am suggesting is that the CMA might make it very difficult for easy to expand at LTN and LGW.
If Norwegian took over some Gatwick operations - mainly LH, and if Wizz took over some LTN, leaving the 'New' Monarch with LH out of LTN & LGW that would keep the CMA sweet.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 20:28
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Pardon my ignorance but who are the CMA?
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 20:29
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Originally Posted by 1994Heavy
The article suggests monarch remain in long Haul? What will happen with the crews?
If the airline is sold in parts to other airlines, the crews will go to whichever buys that part - be it easyJet, Norwegian or someone else.

The Long Haul play seems to be something either the management or Greybull want to do, using the Monarch name as a completly new rebirth.
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