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Well Babckbone were in the sim in Berlin yesterday with Pascal so something must be happening.... glad to see a first time poster only posting negatives...par for the course these days!
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After having contact with several people from Powdair / Backbone over the last few weeks, I have every faith that this project will take off. Whether or not it is a success in the long term is another matter but there is a serious amount of money, know how, technology and thought gone into this set up.
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if peoples past business dealings have been negative is there any reason not to draw attention to these? hopefully they can get it right some day butshould other people be footing the bill? plenty of info on google
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whose footing the bill? - are you referring to ticket money??
From the powdair FAQ's
"What happens when you purchase a ticket from powdair?" CFO of our ticketing partner WorldTicket, Lars Bloch, explains:
"At WorldTicket we process all credit card payments for powdair. Our standard process is that we do not release any funds until the passenger has flown after December 14th 2017, which means that when purchasing the ticket through our services the passenger is always guaranteed to either get their product or a full refund if necessary.
WorldTicket has delivered industry compliant airline distribution solutions since 2002, and we are connected to all the major Global Distribution Systems for more than 10 years. We are the IT provider for more than 50 regional and mid-sized airlines worldwide, and also provides services for payment processing as we do for Powdair. We are more than 80 people located in our offices in Copenhagen, Warsaw, Kiev, Bangkok and Beijing."
From the powdair FAQ's
"What happens when you purchase a ticket from powdair?" CFO of our ticketing partner WorldTicket, Lars Bloch, explains:
"At WorldTicket we process all credit card payments for powdair. Our standard process is that we do not release any funds until the passenger has flown after December 14th 2017, which means that when purchasing the ticket through our services the passenger is always guaranteed to either get their product or a full refund if necessary.
WorldTicket has delivered industry compliant airline distribution solutions since 2002, and we are connected to all the major Global Distribution Systems for more than 10 years. We are the IT provider for more than 50 regional and mid-sized airlines worldwide, and also provides services for payment processing as we do for Powdair. We are more than 80 people located in our offices in Copenhagen, Warsaw, Kiev, Bangkok and Beijing."
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I really can't see what's wrong with objective analysis of the situation. We have no moral obligation to talk up the prospects of a bizarre proposal that's being implemented in an even more bizarre way.
It's not Nexus Airways, but still, can anyone name one single airline that started off like this and succeeded?
It's not Nexus Airways, but still, can anyone name one single airline that started off like this and succeeded?
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Talking up! ... even I'd never support that...!
Is it a bizarre proposal? - yes, not implemented in a normal way... yes
Even I'd agree with that..... but are we using old school traditional airline thinking for what is, "as I've been told" direct from the horse's mouth - a digital proposition and should we at least not give them the benefit of the doubt till at least 14th December? After all there is a lot more than just a couple of people involved in airline start-ups as we all know!
Because they appear to be using an approach that is not traditional in airline start-ups doesn't automatically mean an instant fail - however that might just be my thinking?
If they don't start on that date then even I, being here in Valais and seeing far more than most than in the UK or elsewhere would not hesitate to say... yup! - they tried but didn't succeed.
However I will share one comment after digging...from someone that I have spoken too that is very well documented in the aviation industry about one of the people behind it, and this person who I was speaking too...was heading up an aviation division on behalf of an airframer, that has recently been in the news that has links to the UK, Canada and now France...... uuurgghh Hhmmmmm... "oh him....he was a "Legend" for us!!
I nearly spat my "Raclette" out and had to re-confirm!!
It appears from a runways widths point of view that it would be prudent to at least pause for breath before ridiculing!
"Caveat Emptor" normal pprune rules apply
Is it a bizarre proposal? - yes, not implemented in a normal way... yes
Even I'd agree with that..... but are we using old school traditional airline thinking for what is, "as I've been told" direct from the horse's mouth - a digital proposition and should we at least not give them the benefit of the doubt till at least 14th December? After all there is a lot more than just a couple of people involved in airline start-ups as we all know!
Because they appear to be using an approach that is not traditional in airline start-ups doesn't automatically mean an instant fail - however that might just be my thinking?
If they don't start on that date then even I, being here in Valais and seeing far more than most than in the UK or elsewhere would not hesitate to say... yup! - they tried but didn't succeed.
However I will share one comment after digging...from someone that I have spoken too that is very well documented in the aviation industry about one of the people behind it, and this person who I was speaking too...was heading up an aviation division on behalf of an airframer, that has recently been in the news that has links to the UK, Canada and now France...... uuurgghh Hhmmmmm... "oh him....he was a "Legend" for us!!
I nearly spat my "Raclette" out and had to re-confirm!!
It appears from a runways widths point of view that it would be prudent to at least pause for breath before ridiculing!
"Caveat Emptor" normal pprune rules apply
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Any time ive been past the airfield on the way to zermatt, there has been fog and or low cloud base, very alike to innsbruck for a valley airport, could be difficult on occasions for diversions down the road to geneva, bern or cmf etc
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Biz jet wise for the last 4 years we have always lost 10 days between December and April and only a couple of them for SNOCLO, but the mil / skyguide forecasters give us at least 24 hrs notice of suspect weather, so as long as the GOM has good planning and SOP's for that eventuality then its a bit of non event to be honest and I know Buchard the local bus operator is already contracted for the Divs plus transfers to resorts...
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Adria have terminated there agreement with Powdair.
Now that Adria have terminated the PowdAir contract, apparently the Sion - LCY - Sion service will be operated by Backbone.
So what type of aircraft will they now use, as obviously they can't operated their own CRJ200 into LCY.
Any ideas
Now that Adria have terminated the PowdAir contract, apparently the Sion - LCY - Sion service will be operated by Backbone.
So what type of aircraft will they now use, as obviously they can't operated their own CRJ200 into LCY.
Any ideas
Just as an aside it would seem that SkyWork is gone for good (they are not flying anymore, although they claim to restart operations soon).
Apparently Ardria is slowly but surely moving in...
Apparently Ardria is slowly but surely moving in...