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Old 28th Nov 2017, 14:28
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Now that actually IS funny Plane.Silly
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Old 28th Nov 2017, 16:25
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Primera Air is also joining the Paris longhaul party offering Boston Newyork and Toronto.
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Old 26th Jun 2018, 22:26
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Are Level changing tack from just A330 longhaul? I see 3 ex Niki 321s have either acquired or are getting Level colours - anyone know what they plan to do with them?

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Old 26th Jun 2018, 23:27
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I think Vueling is going to open a new base in Vienna next July, maybe the 15th.

Those planes will be operated by Level for Vueling.

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Old 27th Jun 2018, 03:06
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I think it's the other way around, operated by the newly created Vueling Austria but in Level branding.

It looks like Level will eventually become the main LCC brand within IAG on both long haul and short haul, it's a more neutral brand and has no reputation attached to it like Vueling may have.
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Old 27th Jun 2018, 04:50
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LEVEL isnt really an airline, but a brand available within the IAG group for their airlines to use as a low-cost brand. In this case, Vueling Austria - due to native German speaking countries struggling with pronouncing Vueling!

The current make up of LEVEL:
Barcelona - operated by Iberia
Paris - operated by Openskies
Vienna - operated by Vueling Austria
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Old 27th Jun 2018, 17:30
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Airbus A321 -211 6454 OE-LCN Anisec Luftfahrt delivery 26jun18 BTS-VIE, after paint into Level cs (+ 6719 OE-LCR NWI-VIE) ex HB-IOU
Airbus A321 -211 6629 OE-LCP Anisec Luftfahrt ferried 22jun18 LFBF-LDE-BTS for paint into Level cs prior delivery ex HB-JOV
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Old 27th Jun 2018, 17:41
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A321 OE-LCR
departed NWI Viernna bound 26th following repaint into Level

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Old 27th Jun 2018, 20:20
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Originally Posted by toledoashley
German speaking countries struggling with pronouncing Vueling!
I still don't know how to pronounce it! In Spanish it should be bwɛling' but who knows? Always been puzzled by the name - 'vuelo' means 'flight' but I'm not sure what the 'ing' is all about.
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Old 27th Jun 2018, 20:42
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I'm sure we had this discussion a while ago. It's Catalan, BTW.
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Old 27th Jun 2018, 22:29
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Jensdad

Vueling is a play on a mix of Spanish and English.
Vuel relates to Vuelar (/to fly) and 'ing'from English. So sort of flying but spanglish ....

spaniards pronounce V like B , as in Valencia is pronounced Balencia and in this way Vueling will be pronounced Bueling in Spain, everywhere else I guess just as it reads with V!
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Old 27th Jun 2018, 22:46
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD
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...and 'ing'from English. So sort of flying but spanglish ....
Thanks for that, EI-BUD. I get the 'vuel...' bit but wasn't sure about the '..ing' as as far as I know no Spanish (or indeed Catalan, InOban; I've no knowledge of that language other than 'Camp Nou' ) words end in those three letters. That explains it, though!
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Old 27th Jun 2018, 23:53
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Originally Posted by jensdad
I still don't know how to pronounce it! In Spanish it should be bwɛling' but who knows? Always been puzzled by the name - 'vuelo' means 'flight' but I'm not sure what the 'ing' is all about.
VUELING means Flying in “Spanglish”

We have in Spanish “ando” like “ing” in English.

bailando, cantando, saltando, volando, soņando..... means dancing, singing, jumping, flying or dreaming for example.

Vuela -> Fly

Vueling -> Volando

could be “Flyando” if we change the words.
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 02:39
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Thanks for that, Lon12. I studied Spanish a while back but am very rusty at the minute!

Sorry for hijacking the thread about Level with a linguistic discussion about the word 'Vueling' everyone
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 13:57
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That headline is pure clickbait. IAG was been looking at the Austrian market for months - it came close to acquiring Niki in December.
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 15:30
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Is Vienna a large enough market to sustain all this activity? Laudamotion, Level and Wizzair are all new entrants with a based fleet.
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 17:01
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Don't forget Eurowings Europe and increased services from easyJet.

All in all Air Berlin / Niki weren't that big at Vienna like those combined are now.
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Old 29th Jun 2018, 15:54
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Seems to me as if the group is firefighting. Trying to be all things at once and failing in many areas. Are the Level staff still IB employees, if they are it must be costing lots of Euros!
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Old 30th Jun 2018, 06:11
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Originally Posted by HZ123
Seems to me as if the group is firefighting. Trying to be all things at once and failing in many areas. Are the Level staff still IB employees, if they are it must be costing lots of Euros!
Level is a 'brand' which can be extended across the group of airlines - so the Barcelona base for LH is operated by Iberia and therefore IB staff, the Paris base is ex-Openskies and staffed by that base, and Austria is a new operation which will be operated by Austrians.
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