LHR given permission to build 3rd runway?
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It seems the open land between T5 and the M25 would be least disruptive, it would also interlink nicely with T5. I still feel the R/w could be built the other side of the motorway in relatively open land with just connective taxiways back across the motorway to connect into the main a/p There is no reason why the new terminal has to be closely connected to the new r/w
I am also wondering why freight has to come into Lhr surely a new freight terminal at Lgw would allow it to connect to Europe through the channel tunnel without all the difficult trucking around the M25
I am also wondering why freight has to come into Lhr surely a new freight terminal at Lgw would allow it to connect to Europe through the channel tunnel without all the difficult trucking around the M25
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Why a new freight terminal at Gatwick for connecting to the continent? You might as well propose a new freight terminal at Manston which is even closer to the channel tunnel, avoids the M25, has a long runway and lots of people who object to remaining closed or say it will never reopen. 
I still feel the R/w could be built the other side of the motorway in relatively open land with just connective taxiways back across the motorway to connect into the main a/p.
I am also wondering why freight has to come into Lhr surely a new freight terminal at Lgw would allow it to connect to Europe through the channel tunnel without all the difficult trucking around the M25
Freighters (A300s and 757 of DHL, 747s of CX, SQ and EK) account for a minuscule proportion (about 0.15%) of LHR movements.
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95% of that goes on pax aircraft.
Only about 2.5k freighters operate through LHR and that's in the off-peak slots.
So the demand is at LHR and you can't force LHR's route network to LGW.
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Why not move all freight flights out of the Capital. Would free up lots of slots. EMA seems obvious to me. Already got a big freight infrastructure. A few more million from MAG should be able to make it the national freight gateway.
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Freight
I'm sure that freight is a major income stream on many routes. I wonder if in some cases the PAX are the icing on top?
I thought that EMA was the major freight hub? Certainly it is at the geographical heart of the real economy.
I thought that EMA was the major freight hub? Certainly it is at the geographical heart of the real economy.
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The industry (airlines, shippers) have had that option for decades but they've chosen not to. Moving a handful of freighters that utilise off-peak slots won't free up the constraint on peak pax slots.
Using EMA will just push more freight on to the roads heading down to the South East adding cost & time. Both would have negative impact on importers/exporters.
Using EMA will just push more freight on to the roads heading down to the South East adding cost & time. Both would have negative impact on importers/exporters.
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Importers, maybe, but I'm not aware me the SE makes any physical goods to be exported....
And for that reason all the major rail or road distributional hubs are in the Midlands.
And for that reason all the major rail or road distributional hubs are in the Midlands.
The new terminal is south, alongside the proposed R3. HAL staff said it was Extension to T5. It is now called T6 after Govt decision. The piers are there on cgi, but they are unable to mention if all aircraft can use it or just short/medium haul, ie no T777 or 380.
Early versions of the R3 plan showed three smaller satellites oriented north-south (as are all the other T2/T5 "toast-rack" ones), but that was before the planned R3 line was moved about 300m further south (to avoid the need to relocate M4 J4A) so the satellites had to be re-oriented to take up less space.
It's hard to tell from the plans, but the T6 satellite stands appear to be roughly the same depth as the current T2/T5 ones.
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Yes, Midlands is a great location for distribution centres to connect across the UK but manufacturing doesn't have to be there - in some industries it can't be (eg salmon).
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I guess you're right that a lot of high-value, time-sensitive manufacturing is within reach of LHR, while the products of the Midlands will use surface transport. It's a pity that so much of the salmon produced within 50 miles of me has to be taken 500 miles to LHR.
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Why not put these "time sensitive" things in the belly and move the other stuff on the the road. If it has to be flown out it has to arrive by road. Just the same as anything that arrives.
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Heathrow 1 - Goldsmith 0?
Goldsmith stated quite often that if he lost the Richmond by-election then Heathrow has won.
He lost, does this mean that Heathrow has won?
He lost, does this mean that Heathrow has won?
The Sun, uncharacteristically, had a reasonable summary of the outcome:
"It might not have been the reason the by-election was won or lost, but the reason we had a contest in the first place was Heathrow. Zac Goldsmith had said he would resign if the west London airport got the go-ahead to expand, and that's exactly what he did when it was given the green light to build a new runway last month.
But although the woman who defeated him is also anti-Heathrow, the fact the former Tory ran on an explicit anti-Heathrow protest ticket and lost will be a boost to Theresa May's hopes of getting this through. And the removal of one of the most vocal campaigners from the House of Commons means that the long-awaited attempts to build a third runway are a little bit closer."
Richmond Park had, of course, elected Lib Dem MPs for many years before Zac came along. Sarah Olney may also turn out to be a vocal campaigner, but the difference would be that she's not doing it from within the governing party.
"It might not have been the reason the by-election was won or lost, but the reason we had a contest in the first place was Heathrow. Zac Goldsmith had said he would resign if the west London airport got the go-ahead to expand, and that's exactly what he did when it was given the green light to build a new runway last month.
But although the woman who defeated him is also anti-Heathrow, the fact the former Tory ran on an explicit anti-Heathrow protest ticket and lost will be a boost to Theresa May's hopes of getting this through. And the removal of one of the most vocal campaigners from the House of Commons means that the long-awaited attempts to build a third runway are a little bit closer."
Richmond Park had, of course, elected Lib Dem MPs for many years before Zac came along. Sarah Olney may also turn out to be a vocal campaigner, but the difference would be that she's not doing it from within the governing party.
Heathrow tops European connectivity league again
This week's publication of OAG's annual Megahubs Index report again shows Heathrow as Europe's most connected airport by a considerable margin.
Using a calculated Connectivity Index based on seat capacity and number of destinations served, LHR comes in about one third higher than both FRA and AMS and more than 50% higher than CDG.
Of the world's airports, Heathrow ranks 15th for connectivity, with all but 2 of those higher in the list being in the US, plus Jakarta/CGK and Haneda.
OAG Megahubs Index
Using a calculated Connectivity Index based on seat capacity and number of destinations served, LHR comes in about one third higher than both FRA and AMS and more than 50% higher than CDG.
Of the world's airports, Heathrow ranks 15th for connectivity, with all but 2 of those higher in the list being in the US, plus Jakarta/CGK and Haneda.
OAG Megahubs Index
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No it doesn't mean that Heathrow has won. The two leading candidates were both anti Heathrow so that took it away as an issue in the election.
Goldsmith intended this to be a by-election about Heathrow expansion. What he failed to realise is that Heathrow expansion is not an electoral issue and does not shift votes. Anyone doubting this should look at election results in the area, and ask themselves why no anti-Heathrow group has ever put up a candidate for election.
Also bear in mind that Richmond is a wealthy area and, consequently, its residents travel a lot and widely, mostly to/from Heathrow (where possible). They, like everyone else, get pissed off with the delays, the queues to take off and land, and the fact that every flight to/from Heathrow takes at least 30 minutes longer than it should (because of the delays). Like the rest of us, they also get pissed off with having to traipse accross to Gatwick for destinations not available at Heathrow.
A rich vocal minority bang on about noise, but it is a minority and a tiny one at that. Rest assured that if the situation was so bad in Richmond, house prices would not be as eye-wateringly high as they are, and the rich and famous would not choose to live there.
There is also the hypocritical environment lobby including the Lib-dems and the Greens who, by implication, are happy with the status quo at Heathrow. By opposing expansion and improvement, they appear to believe that the unnecessary pollution caused by the existing levels of delays is fine and dandy.
Their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny and, funnily enough, no one has bothered to explain how to make Heathrow "better not bigger", a mindless slogan often trotted out by some local MPs (and ex-MPs of course).
Goldsmith should have known all this, he grew up in the area and still lives there.
The opportunist and fanatically pro-EU Lib-Dems attempted to make it a referendum on brexit and that backfired as well, because it's several months too late.
In the end if the by-election turned out to be a referendum, it was a referendum on "Zac-zit" and unnecessary by-elections, by-elections on cold days, and by-elections in December. With the Conservatives not bothering to field a candidate, the Lib-Dems were the only party capable of taking advantage of the situation, nothing more, nothing less.
The question if the by-election had been a referendum:
Should Zac remain in Parliament as MP for Richmond?
Should Zac leave Parliament as the former MP for Richmond?
The Sun, uncharacteristically, had a reasonable summary of the outcome:
"It might not have been the reason the by-election was won or lost, but the reason we had a contest in the first place was Heathrow. Zac Goldsmith had said he would resign if the west London airport got the go-ahead to expand, and that's exactly what he did when it was given the green light to build a new runway last month.
But although the woman who defeated him is also anti-Heathrow, the fact the former Tory ran on an explicit anti-Heathrow protest ticket and lost will be a boost to Theresa May's hopes of getting this through. And the removal of one of the most vocal campaigners from the House of Commons means that the long-awaited attempts to build a third runway are a little bit closer."
Richmond Park had, of course, elected Lib Dem MPs for many years before Zac came along. Sarah Olney may also turn out to be a vocal campaigner, but the difference would be that she's not doing it from within the governing party.
"It might not have been the reason the by-election was won or lost, but the reason we had a contest in the first place was Heathrow. Zac Goldsmith had said he would resign if the west London airport got the go-ahead to expand, and that's exactly what he did when it was given the green light to build a new runway last month.
But although the woman who defeated him is also anti-Heathrow, the fact the former Tory ran on an explicit anti-Heathrow protest ticket and lost will be a boost to Theresa May's hopes of getting this through. And the removal of one of the most vocal campaigners from the House of Commons means that the long-awaited attempts to build a third runway are a little bit closer."
Richmond Park had, of course, elected Lib Dem MPs for many years before Zac came along. Sarah Olney may also turn out to be a vocal campaigner, but the difference would be that she's not doing it from within the governing party.
Pity the fares are so high - I now regularly travel via AMS or CDG long-haul as the cost of Business out of LHR is getting so steep
