LHR given permission to build 3rd runway?
Are the authorities aware that a new Airport is planned for the central belt in Scotland," closing and/or downgrading Glasgow and Edinburgh where expansion is impossible" with excellent road and rail links already in place, two of the longest runways in Europe, and backing from some of the largest airlines in the world, this will alter the whole economy of Scotland, and just maybe eliminate the need for any expansion in the South.
A Central Scotland Airport was "planned" more than 40 years ago. It didn't happen then and it's not going to now.
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Please do not get too excited, it will not be built IMHO. I go back to the days of the Rosskill Commission in the late 1960s which recommended Cublington (near Tring in Hertfordshire). To many objections, cost etc. By all means go to the pub A30yoyo but please do not get too excited you hear now.
Quote from public press release by Government.
Expansion costs will be paid for by the private sector, not by the taxpayer. It will be for the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), as the independent industry regulator, to work with Heathrow Airport Ltd and airlines operating at the airport, on the detailed design and costs to ensure the scheme remains affordable. The government expects the industry to work together to drive down costs to benefit passengers. The aim should be to deliver a plan for expansion that keeps landing charges close to current levels.
So no cost to UK government - apart from the cost to move off the balance sheet to debt and no tax paid, keeping the dividend intact.
So no cost to UK government - apart from the cost to move off the balance sheet to debt and no tax paid, keeping the dividend intact.
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I'm surprised people excited by this to be honest. The public consultation will be nasty, the eco-warriors will join in, politicians will not all support it, MAG threatening legal action, LGW will maybe follow suit...this is just the start of more decades of wrangling...no way will this runway be built by 2025, not a chance.
MAG would be foolish to sue and the Swampy's of this world will no doubt try and chain themselves to various trees. It did no good in the end trying to stop Manchester's second runway and will have little chance of greater success at Heathrow. Boris may even turn up to lie in front of a bulldozer too, but I suspect there would be a long line of people offering to drive the machinery...
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THIS CHANGES NOTHING!
At least a year of consultation, then a vote, then protests, then a post brexit Uk. Meanwhile the far east will have built half a dozen airports in that time.
If anyone thinks LHR will ever get a new runway they are living in cloud cuckoo land.
If anyone thinks LHR will ever get a new runway they are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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Rivet Joint. I won't waste my time arguing BREXIT, but perhaps you could explain why we have any right to reclaim our position as the Hub of the world. Britain (not London) became the hub of the world on the basis of Naval Power, the slave trade and the creation of the industrial revolution. All a long way in the past. We have been living well beyond our means for at least a century and are now a heavily-indebted island, and hence dependent on the grace and favour of others.
Hope it is never built. It is not needed............. Expansion for expansion sake..
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River Joint you really are a nasty little man. I don't not care if I get suspended for saying so. In many threads across these boards you are so negative and vitriolic about your petty hates. LGW is far from a dump. You insult the 40 million people who use it every year.
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AndrewH52. You make it sound a straightforward process. Might there not be the little matter of legal challenges and court hearings given that 4 councils and probably others have promised action.
I'm not sure at what stage they could start but I suspect they will all add to the time and could even be successful.
I'm not sure at what stage they could start but I suspect they will all add to the time and could even be successful.
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the authorities aware that a new Airport is planned for the central belt in Scotland," closing and/or downgrading Glasgow and Edinburgh where expansion is impossible" w
I suspect that given the embarrassment of the possible future liability on the Scottish public purse at PIK that Holyrood would be more likely to find a reason to close GLA on some pretext and force its traffic down to PIK !
If construction of a third runway at Heathrow would mean the demolition of 750 homes and an enormously speculative and ruinously expensive 'M25 tunnel' (what a terrorist target that would be 
), yet the alternative at Gatwick would not - then there can be no justification for choosing LHR.
A high speed rail link between the 2 airports is needed though.
), yet the alternative at Gatwick would not - then there can be no justification for choosing LHR.A high speed rail link between the 2 airports is needed though.
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On a positive note I look forward to BA moving the Beach Fleet from LGW to LHR. It will be so much easier for staff travel, however at my age I do need this to be completed by 2025.
On another point I do wish threaders would resort from childish insults and vitriolic comments, many of you live nowhere near LHR / LGW and probably merely fly when you go on holiday. Your professed knowledge of people living in the airport environment and the vast benefits they are in receipt of surprise me. I must assume you personally know residents, airport staff and crew.
On another point I do wish threaders would resort from childish insults and vitriolic comments, many of you live nowhere near LHR / LGW and probably merely fly when you go on holiday. Your professed knowledge of people living in the airport environment and the vast benefits they are in receipt of surprise me. I must assume you personally know residents, airport staff and crew.
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Let the gruesome legal battle over Heathrow commence | Coffee House
Good piece about how M'Learned Friends milk a system where politicians gave up their responsibilities.
Good piece about how M'Learned Friends milk a system where politicians gave up their responsibilities.
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Think of the positive news from this decision - Zac Goldsmith is going to resign as an MP!
As an aside to this - with British Airways becoming more and more London centric (I live in the SE of the UK but very, very rarely use Heathrow and/or BA) could BA perhaps consider renaming themselves London Airways or South-East Airlines or something similarily appropriate?
PS Just being cheeky before someone kicks off and calls me anti-BA etc, etc.
As an aside to this - with British Airways becoming more and more London centric (I live in the SE of the UK but very, very rarely use Heathrow and/or BA) could BA perhaps consider renaming themselves London Airways or South-East Airlines or something similarily appropriate?
PS Just being cheeky before someone kicks off and calls me anti-BA etc, etc.
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What purpose would a rail link between Heathrow and Gatwick serve?
No way would I fly part way around the World to Heathrow to collect my baggage, get on a train, check in at Gatwick, go through security to get on another aircraft to fly to my final destination.
No way would I fly part way around the World to Heathrow to collect my baggage, get on a train, check in at Gatwick, go through security to get on another aircraft to fly to my final destination.