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Old 25th Oct 2016, 09:36
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http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...throw-241.html

Existing thread here.
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Cue more decades of dithering!!
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Breaking News on the BBC. New Runway might be in use by 2025, but then again it might not.
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Finally!!!
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So basically what they've decided is.....there might be a new runway at LHR. good to see all that money and time has made progress on this whole thing. Oh wait....
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Sir Howard Davies at the Lords Economic Affairs Committee

Interesting link T'n'N

But I'm not sure the good folk of Scotland would be too impressed with this comment in Q7:

" That is what they really want. (connectivity to LHR he is referring to). In Scotland , for example, they are very keen that there should be some North Atlantic links , and a daily flight to JFK is probably realistic, but will you get an Edinburgh Denver flight or an Edinburgh Chicago flight? No, you will not"

I'm sure someone can tell us how many flights to the States EDI and GLA combined had this last summer.

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Originally Posted by T250
Cue more decades of dithering!!
Big difference this time is that the planning process most likely won't be in the hands of local planning authorities. This is a nationally significant infrastructure project and as set out in the official announcement below will be decided by the Planning Inspector. The 12 month consultation period makes much more sense now as it will effectively be the consultation on the National Policy Statement (NPS) for the new runway.



https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...ay-at-heathrow

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Refreshing that action appears to be finally underway (despite the need for it to pass through much consultation). As we've seen many times in the past, it's been such a contentious issue that governments have been only too happy to pass it onto their successors. Long overdue!
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Transport Secretary due to make statement in the Commons at around 1pm.
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for those of us who don't live in London this makes no sense. there is plenty of capacity at regional airports to move some of the current traffic thus freeing up space in the London airports

but then what do I know

good luck getting to/from LHR when it is built
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Meanwhile, does anyone else share my feelings of mild irritation on the following, of children as innocent victims?:-

Growing up under Heathrow's flightpath - BBC News

How much does Heathrow pump in to Greater West London's economy?

And why move near an airport (with your children) then complain about the noise?

Has anyone observed that current aircraft are quieter than the pre-stage three machines that used to be my wake-up call when I was lodging at The Heston Hilton, circa 1982? Ah, didn't think so...
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Just make sure, that no German is involved in the planning or construction.

BER might get into use in 2025. But no one really knows...
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Just wondering if IAG include the value of Heathrow slots in their Balance Sheet ?

Maybe time to sell them if they do....

Edited to add that I meant any IAG shares you may have....
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It will never happen
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A poor decision. Traffic around West London and associated motorways to become even slower. Ongoing noise and pollution for millions of Londoners. And the small but non-zero risk that one day, on approach or departure a plane will crash into a highly populated area, whereas at Gatwick it might hit some cows.

Heathrow is much closer to me than Gatwick, but it's a poor choice.
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Originally Posted by Midland 331
Meanwhile, does anyone else share my feelings of mild irritation on the following, of children as innocent victims?:-

Growing up under Heathrow's flightpath - BBC News

How much does Heathrow pump in to Greater West London's economy?

And why move near an airport (with your children) then complain about the noise?

Has anyone observed that current aircraft are quieter than the pre-stage three machines that used to be my wake-up call when I was lodging at The Heston Hilton, circa 1982? Ah, didn't think so...
Hilarious! I bet their parents were very glad tp come to our country!
I'm woken up by aircraft at 0500 - 0600 but I don't go whinging about it.
Journos making their living, eh?
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"Government will also take all necessary steps including, where appropriate, ring-fencing a suitable proportion of new slots for domestic routes, to ensure enhanced connectivity within the UK."

This is the crucial one for me, manage the market forces and keep the UK connected.

I'm sure someone can tell us how many flights to the States EDI and GLA combined had this last summer.
Eight from memory, excluding Air Transat and Air Canada Rouge.
It's highly seasonal, in winter GLA has one (almost) daily New York EWR and EDI is daily.

-- Edited as DL operated EDI-JFK in winter too.
Summer sees :

GLA-EWR UA
GLA-PHL AA
GLA-JFK DL (new 2017)

EDI EWR x 2 UA
EDI-ORD UA
EDI-JFK DL
EDI-JFK AA

So business can support one daily connection and summer holidays drive a lot more which business can then use.

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Oh my, I forgot about the NIMBY's that are going to come out.


You should have to sign some sort of legal document that of you move within a certain radius of an airport you cant complain about the noise. Reminds me of my Aunt who always complains about the noise from kids and school traffic when she decided to move right next to a school.
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Originally Posted by msjh
A poor decision. Traffic around West London and associated motorways to become even slower. Ongoing noise and pollution for millions of Londoners. And the small but non-zero risk that one day, on approach or departure a plane will crash into a highly populated area, whereas at Gatwick it might hit some cows.

Heathrow is much closer to me than Gatwick, but it's a poor choice.
So cows are less important than humans, eh?

Good point, esp if combined with a high speed LHR-LGW rail link, but I guess it's all going to be at LHR.
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I gather the clinching argument was that Boris will lie down in front of the bulldozers if Heathrow was chosen. I'm told that they're looking to fund most of the project by holding a lottery for the job of driving the 'dozer.

If we pay extra can we get Gove and Fox lying in front as well?
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