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Old 24th Jun 2016, 20:49
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British C Series order

"Rumors has it, there are orders for CSeries coming up during the Farnborough Airshow before July 14. Also, we could expect one of those orders to be from a "British" airline for something around or in excess of 100 CSeries."


I know there is probably only one Airline who this could be but has anybody any more info.
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Aww that's too easy!

Half-surprised that Cityjet aren't adding a few though, they seem to be buying anything that flies at the moment.
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As has been hinted it's future is orange
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Willie Walsh has said that IAG could see C Series as a match for some of the airlines within the group. That might well be BA. I cant see easyJet at this junction going for this change in direction given it has commitments made to NEO etc. More generally IAG going for C Series could be good for Aer Lingus given then a great aircraft for thinner routes and new route development.

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As has been hinted it's future is orange
Well it might have been, two days ago when first posted ...
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I cant see easyJet at this junction going for this change in direction given it has commitments made to NEO etc.
But this was rumoured for EZY some time ago...C-series to replace A319 on thinner routes, and A320 to replace A319 everywhere else.
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Willie Walsh has said that IAG could see C Series as a match for some of the airlines within the group. That might well be BA. I cant see easyJet at this junction going for this change in direction given it has commitments made to NEO etc. More generally IAG going for C Series could be good for Aer Lingus given then a great aircraft for thinner routes and new route development.

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Don't see it, Airbus will get some increased business within 6-12 months if word on the street is to be believed.

Perhaps Fly Maybe will get some to replace E Jets? or BA CityFlyer for growth?
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Ideal aircraft for smaller airports with short runways like SOUTHEND
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Think you might find that the British order is for a new start up called ODYSSEY airlines due to start operations in 2017 and based out of LCY. Try looking at - Home - Odyssey Airlines
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Whispering giant - Odyssey yes, but 100 units???
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2 + 98 options?
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Old 25th Jun 2016, 11:10
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Bombardier announced the Odyssey order (for 10 aircraft) five years ago, although they didn't identify the customer until 2013.

Bombardier Discloses Odyssey as European Customer for 10 CSeries Aircraft - Bombardier
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How about bmi regional? X firm to be split between their UK op, expansion and ops for other carriers and X options?

They currently operate intra-European routes so maybe this has a need for more airframes
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Surely if it's a really 100 frames it can only be EZY or BA. Even for either of these it seems like a very 'brave' decision - as for anybody else, well...
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I'd imagine if it was an easyJet order, there would be some level of cajoling to get Stelios to agree to such a large order??

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Surely, the whole ethos of EZY mitigates against the C Series replacing the 319. Just imagine the cost of type ratings for 1/2 the pilots - & then being unable to use them on the 320. Although, I suppose, you could keep them busy on both types in order to keep the Ratings current & the operation flexible.Would they do this ? Then there would be new recruits who would have to get both ratings, or only able to fly 1/2 the fleet.
You would , presumably, repeat the whole procedure for maintenance & cabin crew etc.
On the other hand, EZY have not ordered any 319 NEOS to replace any that are getting a bit "long in the tooth". Does this give any credence to the rumour ?
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While there are costs associated with a two type fleet - not just pilots but spares, maintenance etc, if the fleets are big enough, right-sizing the aircraft to the routes will save more money than the extra costs that are incurred.
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Multi-fleet costs are only really an issue if the fleet sizes are small. An airline with 10 aircraft and 3 different types would be inefficient but once you are talking 100 plus airframes per type the savings from having a single fleet are negligible.
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Jet Blue manages a two fleet operation OK.
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"I'd imagine if it was an easyJet order, there would be some level of cajoling to get Stelios to agree to such a large order??"

EJ management try and ignore him as much as possible - and the rest of their shareholders wish he'd go somewhere else.....
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