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Old 16th Oct 2016, 08:25
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Any body who says that this is an "IT fault / problem / cock up failure etc" does not understand IT!

We are not talking complicated algorithms - these figures are the most basic, straight forward passenger amounts and are exactly known as the last second of each calendar month ticks past and this is why they have been done accurately and promptly for 100s of consecutive months.

So no - this is most definitely not an IT cock up.

Yes the vast majority of the travelling public do not check these figures but if the media note that a particular route is flying with aircraft just a quarter full month after month then questions begin to be asked. Of course, if these basic statistics are not available - no questions get asked.

A slow and deliberate removal of openness and accountability.

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Old 16th Oct 2016, 18:16
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if the media note that a particular route is flying with aircraft just a quarter full month after month then questions begin to be asked.
And why would it be of any concern to the media that an airline may run with 25% loads on a route? If the passengers on that route are paying sufficiently high fares then the route could be profitable. Whereas as on a low-cost airlines, having 150 passengers paying a tenner may result in 90% loads and an unprofitable route.
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Old 16th Oct 2016, 18:56
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When the two possible reasons for something not working as intended are conspiracy or c*ck-up, it's almost always safe to bet on the latter.
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Old 27th Oct 2016, 16:32
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some CAA stats updated...
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Old 27th Oct 2016, 17:24
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I really don't feel like I can trust any of the stats, loads of them are still incomplete

Is there any plan as to when or if this will ever get sorted out?
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Old 27th Oct 2016, 20:49
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"THIS DATA IS NOW COMPLETE"

If they say so. Where is half the Aberdeen stats then? And I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg

Can't get some basic stats right but happy to give it their best shot trying to run an airline into the ground.
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Old 9th Nov 2016, 19:17
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Nothing from Luton since June!
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Old 3rd Apr 2017, 11:52
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So here we are in April and still no February data. It always used to be the 15th or 16th of the month following. What chance of a return to this standard? Come on CAA, this shambolic state of affairs has been goon on for more than a year.
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Ah well, toon22, this is the new, improved system, what do you expect?...the old system was working far too well and needed fixing.
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Doesn't the problem lie with the airports who are failing to submit data in the standard format?
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Old 3rd Apr 2017, 15:25
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Originally Posted by inOban
Doesn't the problem lie with the airports who are failing to submit data in the standard format?
I suspect the reasons proposed in post #22 are rather more feasible than the suggestion that a large proportion of UK airports have suddenly become incapable of supplying basic stats on their operations.

Originally Posted by EastMids
The way it was explained to me was:

1. Airports provide figures to a third party
2. Third part collates figures
3. CAA publish figures on their website

However, the way in which figures are reported has changed due to some new EU regulation. Airports will be fined if they don't produce the figures in a certain way. Almost all airports have made the change, the third party has adapted, but the CAA system (or website?) cannot yet accept figures in the revised format.
Maybe with Brexit looming they can stick two fingers up to the EU regulation and reinstate the old system that the CAA seemed to be able to cope OK with?
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