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Emirates A380 rumblings
Havent seen this mentioned ...
Rumblings of a A380 or a third daily on the DXB-GLA route......
https://www.businesstraveller.com/ai...serve-glasgow/
Rumblings of a A380 or a third daily on the DXB-GLA route......
https://www.businesstraveller.com/ai...serve-glasgow/
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Be nice to see the A380 into GLA.
Would also free up a 777 allowing NCL to become 2x daily.
However 3x daily will offer much better connections and maybe better choice offering compared to the EY, QR along at EDI.
Would also free up a 777 allowing NCL to become 2x daily.
However 3x daily will offer much better connections and maybe better choice offering compared to the EY, QR along at EDI.
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Emirates have not found it easy with all their third flights and Glasgow doesn't fill two at the moment.
Per the CAA figures, 2015 was 429602 pax & 2014 424561 pax - 1460 flights which is 294 per flight or 82%. That is a pretty small increase and I realise the QR & EY at EDI has affected the Scottish market. Maybe another reason why any increase if any should come via an A380 rather than a third flight.
Manchester can't get a 4th flight despite load factors often over 90% going down the all A380 route first and BHX has needed some juggling of their A380 service, as the morning flight is still growing at a very slow rate.
Rome has lost or is losing its morning flight and Lisbon is going back to daily indicating Emirates are getting a bit more ruthless.
If the 380 is on offer in exchange for some stand enhancements I would snap their hand off.
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Emirates have not found it easy with all their third flights and Glasgow doesn't fill two at the moment.
Per the CAA figures, 2015 was 429602 pax & 2014 424561 pax - 1460 flights which is 294 per flight or 82%. That is a pretty small increase and I realise the QR & EY at EDI has affected the Scottish market. Maybe another reason why any increase if any should come via an A380 rather than a third flight.
Manchester can't get a 4th flight despite load factors often over 90% going down the all A380 route first and BHX has needed some juggling of their A380 service, as the morning flight is still growing at a very slow rate.
Rome has lost or is losing its morning flight and Lisbon is going back to daily indicating Emirates are getting a bit more ruthless.
If the 380 is on offer in exchange for some stand enhancements I would snap their hand off.
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God I hope not. The place came to a complete halt the last time it was in it was complete chaos. Last week there was 3 airbridges u/s the rest are creaking hulks of rust. Half the stands don't have a reliable fixed ground power. Both the west campus and drop off areas are dug up and a mess. Place is in need of a huge infrastructure overhaul before the big pig starts coming in.
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Per the CAA figures, 2015 was 429602 pax & 2014 424561 pax - 1460 flights which is 294 per flight or 82%. That is a pretty small increase and I realise the QR & EY at EDI has affected the Scottish market. Maybe another reason why any increase if any should come via an A380 rather than a third flight.
82% is excellent for a yearly average, considering May traditionally drops drastically and July and August happily sees both flights full every day.
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I agree 82& over a 12 month period for sheers numbers (Forgetting yield) is really good but it is usually 90% plus when EK increase although there have been some exceptions such as QR announcing BHX and a few years back when QR and EY expanded at Manchester.
The reported stats thus far for 2016 (Source: CAA) make grim reading every month down in the first third of the year although load factors have maintained as the decrease has been quite small.
January...2016..36291.....2015...38005......2016 avg...293.....81%
February 2016..33396.....2015...34536......2016 avg...288....80%
March.....2016..37191.....2015...38058......2016 avg...300....83%
April......2016...36059.....2015...36295.....2016 avg....300....83%
Total.............142937......2015.146894.....2016 avg....295....82%
Only 3427 fewer pax compared to 2015 and load factor has remained steady and if things have improved in the last 3 months that is impressive as May and June are difficult months although the Scottish holidays temper some of that.
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I agree 82& over a 12 month period for sheers numbers (Forgetting yield) is really good but it is usually 90% plus when EK increase although there have been some exceptions such as QR announcing BHX and a few years back when QR and EY expanded at Manchester.
The reported stats thus far for 2016 (Source: CAA) make grim reading every month down in the first third of the year although load factors have maintained as the decrease has been quite small.
January...2016..36291.....2015...38005......2016 avg...293.....81%
February 2016..33396.....2015...34536......2016 avg...288....80%
March.....2016..37191.....2015...38058......2016 avg...300....83%
April......2016...36059.....2015...36295.....2016 avg....300....83%
Total.............142937......2015.146894.....2016 avg....295....82%
Only 3427 fewer pax compared to 2015 and load factor has remained steady and if things have improved in the last 3 months that is impressive as May and June are difficult months although the Scottish holidays temper some of that.
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Such exceptions exist in these circumstances too - QR launched EDI in 2014 and EY in 2015.
Another thing to consider is cargo, it's massive ex GLA and excess freight is often sent to NCL and MAN (the latter going all A380 thus reducing cargo capacity).
Another thing to consider is cargo, it's massive ex GLA and excess freight is often sent to NCL and MAN (the latter going all A380 thus reducing cargo capacity).
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Not likely.
If they wanted to put a Cargo flight on it would most likely be to GLA. DNATA has a fairly large cargo terminal at GLA already, a cargo stand and the equipment for loading would be required but that's about it.
Maybe they could get it in the cheap if PIK closes.
If they wanted to put a Cargo flight on it would most likely be to GLA. DNATA has a fairly large cargo terminal at GLA already, a cargo stand and the equipment for loading would be required but that's about it.
Maybe they could get it in the cheap if PIK closes.
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GLA has a cargo stand that can take a B777? Surely 38 is the one and only stand option open to them? I wasn't being too serious btw 
I doubt management at PIK would manage to make the deal (!)
I doubt management at PIK would manage to make the deal (!)
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It is rather sad to see GLA losing out on EK passengers, the A380 could prove a draw for some passengers though, maybe attract some over instead of the 787/A330 at EDI... But probably not too many to keep it full
I'm sure numbers will come up eventually as the dust settles, but Jan-April doesn't make for good reading at all :/
When did GLA go 2 daily?
HH6702, yes, it would however it wouldn't free up a 777 at the right time of day, we'd need it for the night shift (arr NCL around 19:00 dep around 21:00) but it would more than likely be the midday GLA flight that went A380... Although Birmingham has shown that perhaps the evening flight might be the more popular
I'd also hesitantly say that NCL would be better off with a 77L than a 77W, sorry to thread drift!
I'm sure numbers will come up eventually as the dust settles, but Jan-April doesn't make for good reading at all :/
When did GLA go 2 daily?
HH6702, yes, it would however it wouldn't free up a 777 at the right time of day, we'd need it for the night shift (arr NCL around 19:00 dep around 21:00) but it would more than likely be the midday GLA flight that went A380... Although Birmingham has shown that perhaps the evening flight might be the more popular
I'd also hesitantly say that NCL would be better off with a 77L than a 77W, sorry to thread drift!
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What is GLA losing out on? :/ The rote is hardly in decline. At worst it has been flat on growth however fares have remained consistent and loads in the front two cabins have remained consistent. And GLA's lead in/ base fare is still higher than all other UK EK departure points.
EK aren't worried about EY and QR in Scotland and not should they be when you look at how heavily they are having to discount, coupled with below average loads.
I don't think those leading EK need a few spotters to tell them if a route is worthy of more capacity or not. If EK say a GLA A380 is just a matter of time, I'll take their word for that.
EK aren't worried about EY and QR in Scotland and not should they be when you look at how heavily they are having to discount, coupled with below average loads.
I don't think those leading EK need a few spotters to tell them if a route is worthy of more capacity or not. If EK say a GLA A380 is just a matter of time, I'll take their word for that.
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It is rather sad to see GLA losing out on EK passengers, the A380 could prove a draw for some passengers though, maybe attract some over instead of the 787/A330 at EDI... But probably not too many to keep it full
I'm sure numbers will come up eventually as the dust settles, but Jan-April doesn't make for good reading at all :/
When did GLA go 2 daily?
HH6702, yes, it would however it wouldn't free up a 777 at the right time of day, we'd need it for the night shift (arr NCL around 19:00 dep around 21:00) but it would more than likely be the midday GLA flight that went A380... Although Birmingham has shown that perhaps the evening flight might be the more popular
I'd also hesitantly say that NCL would be better off with a 77L than a 77W, sorry to thread drift!
I'm sure numbers will come up eventually as the dust settles, but Jan-April doesn't make for good reading at all :/
When did GLA go 2 daily?
HH6702, yes, it would however it wouldn't free up a 777 at the right time of day, we'd need it for the night shift (arr NCL around 19:00 dep around 21:00) but it would more than likely be the midday GLA flight that went A380... Although Birmingham has shown that perhaps the evening flight might be the more popular
I'd also hesitantly say that NCL would be better off with a 77L than a 77W, sorry to thread drift!
Like the above poster said, there have been minor decreases (a few % at most) which is very much likely due to EY entering the market last year.
GLA went twice daily in June 2012.
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Substantial cuts on the FR STN services for the winter schedule; is this a new change? 10 less departures (20 rotations) per week it looks like and Saturday is looking rather sparse! And Bydgoszcz suspended?
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Bydgoszcz is cut due to a dispute between Ryanair and the airport. Many Ryanair routes from the Polish city are being cut. Glasgow is picking up Brussels as a replacement so no cut in capacity.
STN is cut by 7 departures a week, I believe, not 10. But again this is part of much wider cuts to the STN network. EDI will see similar scale cut backs.
Ryanair will launch Alicante, Malaga, Gran Canaria, Lanzarote and Sofia this winter from GLA so despite the cut to STN, still a substantial overall increase. Plus Wizz Air will have more flights to EE this winter compared to last.
STN is cut by 7 departures a week, I believe, not 10. But again this is part of much wider cuts to the STN network. EDI will see similar scale cut backs.
Ryanair will launch Alicante, Malaga, Gran Canaria, Lanzarote and Sofia this winter from GLA so despite the cut to STN, still a substantial overall increase. Plus Wizz Air will have more flights to EE this winter compared to last.