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Was thinking NWI sun routes were going to be 3x a week, but 2x weekly probably makes more sense for such a niche route. Good to see them return but who knows how long anything will last with whats happened today on the release of SU16
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They're not really redeploying the E195 to operate DSA-NQY, it seems to me they have a golden opportunity to tap into the Yorkshire / Notts market with little competition and the NQY route looks like a useful filler for otherwise pretty busy aircraft …
With the new link road to DSA the Sheffield City region is unserved in terms of a major city region and it seems a good move by flybe if you ask me ...
With the new link road to DSA the Sheffield City region is unserved in terms of a major city region and it seems a good move by flybe if you ask me ...
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The DSA nqy route seems to be a logical choice as flybe have applied for regional air development funding for a LBA nqy route, this is perhaps a way of testing the water for its demand, so if successful they will drop DSA in favour of it. The DSA operation will probably do well for flybe, with such a large catchment area and the new link road opening, its what the airport needs.
Peel and DSA have signed a long term agreement with Flybe
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Laughable? Really? Very smart move of Flybe in my opinion, the FARRRS link road opening early 2016 will make DSA hugely more accessible from the south west of the region reducing journey times from Sheffield (population approx. 550,000) to less than 25 minutes. I'm sure we'll see other airlines following suit in the coming years.
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DSA-NQY
Sitting back and thinking about this, its really not a bad idea I wouldn't of thought.
NQY has a long history of doing well on routes into this general area with BMIbaby and AirSouthwest, I cant recall DSA operating but MAN has and still does attract good numbers, EMA and LBA have previously sustained 737 or multi day DH8-300 rotations.
In the fullness of time I could see DSA running alongside LBA and MAN and quite possibly EMA into NQY.
Apart from that, as others have pointed out this ties up an aircraft which seems quite well used apart from these 3 time slots, which from DSA and the spare time that the aircraft has limits the options for a fill in route !
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NQY has a long history of doing well on routes into this general area with BMIbaby and AirSouthwest, I cant recall DSA operating but MAN has and still does attract good numbers, EMA and LBA have previously sustained 737 or multi day DH8-300 rotations.
In the fullness of time I could see DSA running alongside LBA and MAN and quite possibly EMA into NQY.
Apart from that, as others have pointed out this ties up an aircraft which seems quite well used apart from these 3 time slots, which from DSA and the spare time that the aircraft has limits the options for a fill in route !
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Six months to 30th September 2015 Profit after tax £26.8 Million
Six months to 30th September 2014 loss after tax £3.4 Million
A turnaround of £30.2 Million
Ok everybody let's see you attack that
Six months to 30th September 2014 loss after tax £3.4 Million
A turnaround of £30.2 Million
Ok everybody let's see you attack that
bean
You are right to draw attention to this improvement. Let us hope that this improvement continues to be the case.
As someone who has not been impressed by BEE's decision making, I do recognise the achievement, & applaud it, for what it is. But, this does not alter my feelings about the decision to open, & then very quickly close, the EGHH routes. This was, obviously (& not just in my opinion, but in fact) very quickly undertaken at the outset with not very much investigation made into the feasibility of the base. Let us hope that the decision to then close it was not also taken so glibly.
Is it not the case that this profit was achieved whilst the Bournemouth routes were in operation ? Could they not, therefor, have continued ?
You are right to draw attention to this improvement. Let us hope that this improvement continues to be the case.
As someone who has not been impressed by BEE's decision making, I do recognise the achievement, & applaud it, for what it is. But, this does not alter my feelings about the decision to open, & then very quickly close, the EGHH routes. This was, obviously (& not just in my opinion, but in fact) very quickly undertaken at the outset with not very much investigation made into the feasibility of the base. Let us hope that the decision to then close it was not also taken so glibly.
Is it not the case that this profit was achieved whilst the Bournemouth routes were in operation ? Could they not, therefor, have continued ?
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Yes bean, Flybe management are running around like headless chickens, and clueless ones at that. That was the message on here wasn't it?
Kockayne you're clutching at straws, what next? Jump on every decision made that turns out in a way you don't like? Did it ever occur to you that maybe BOH was used as a pawn to get what they want at SOU? I don't know the reasons behind the decision but it sounds feasible don't you think? And why is it Ryanair and alot of other airlines can do it but as soon as Flybe does it you have a problem? Maybe you just like to sit on your keyboard and police pprune, who knows, but the bottom line is Flybe is a PIC and they've just recorded over £20m profit and over £30m gain in half a year, not bad for headless chickens wouldn't you say?
Kockayne you're clutching at straws, what next? Jump on every decision made that turns out in a way you don't like? Did it ever occur to you that maybe BOH was used as a pawn to get what they want at SOU? I don't know the reasons behind the decision but it sounds feasible don't you think? And why is it Ryanair and alot of other airlines can do it but as soon as Flybe does it you have a problem? Maybe you just like to sit on your keyboard and police pprune, who knows, but the bottom line is Flybe is a PIC and they've just recorded over £20m profit and over £30m gain in half a year, not bad for headless chickens wouldn't you say?
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Brilliant! All those crew members happy to relocate or move to BOH. Those crew members who live there already happy about a local base now have to replan their lives because they've possibly been used as pawns and you think that's not bad.
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Oh Lord Spandex Chesty Masher Morgan, please point me to where I said it wasn't bad for those people? I knew it wouldn't take long for you to stick your beak in. Why don't you toddle off to the jet2 forum, the way you carry on makes me think you regretted leaving Flybe.
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It could be that they'll be operated by the Super Dash 
as they trialled Spain from Exeter a while ago on it.
On the bright side you get a free foot massage, on the other hand there is still no cure for Vibration White Finger.
as they trialled Spain from Exeter a while ago on it. On the bright side you get a free foot massage, on the other hand there is still no cure for Vibration White Finger.
Just got an email from FlyBe advertising Summer 2016 routes from SOU
As Chesty says (and as the 195's are apparently all re-deployed for next Summer) maybe these will be on the Dash, which has been used to PMI (regularly) and ALC (occasionally) from SOU this year.
I find the Dash perfectly acceptable from a passenger standpoint - I like the 2+2 layout that it shares with the Embraer and that FL250 ceiling actually means you get a better view ;-)
I also have no problem with the Dash, just didn't think it had the legs for FAO and AGP. I know that they've used it on PMI and ALC in the past though.
Any Dash-8 jocks out there able to confirm?
Any Dash-8 jocks out there able to confirm?
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You say, "didn't it ever occur to me that maybe BOH was being used by BEE to get what they wanted out of SOU". Yes, CC, it did. That is why, on my original posts complaining about BEE's wayward (apparently) decision making, I specifically raised that point.
I said that BOH would not last, that the parallel operations out of 'HH & 'HI would not last long, that it would all end in tears (for one of the airports), & that the only reason that I could see for running both was that BEE wanted to get a better deal out of 'HI by threatening it with the possibility of a move to BOH. Could be that I was right on all 4 points !
It is a pity that they had to use BOH & all the pax they attracted to it to get their own way at SOU. If that is what they did.
You also say, "why is it that RYR can do this, but as soon as BEE does it, I have a problem".
This statement is entirely of your making, CC, & is nothing to do with me. This is a BEE forum; I was referring to BEE. If I have anything to say about RYR, I will say it on the RYR forum.
As a matter of fact, I have no love for RYR, which I have watched develop from a one Bandeirante operation to the huge outfit it is today. I didn't think much of it then, & I don't think much of it today. Which is why I avoid it "like the plague".
I condemn these sort of practices whichever airline does them.
In this regard, I would thank you to not put words into my mouth !
But, apart from all that; I do wish BEE (& their customers) well. This improvement is a start. Let us all hope that they do not use unsuspecting passengers in this way again (your theory) & continue their improvement.
You say, "didn't it ever occur to me that maybe BOH was being used by BEE to get what they wanted out of SOU". Yes, CC, it did. That is why, on my original posts complaining about BEE's wayward (apparently) decision making, I specifically raised that point.
I said that BOH would not last, that the parallel operations out of 'HH & 'HI would not last long, that it would all end in tears (for one of the airports), & that the only reason that I could see for running both was that BEE wanted to get a better deal out of 'HI by threatening it with the possibility of a move to BOH. Could be that I was right on all 4 points !
It is a pity that they had to use BOH & all the pax they attracted to it to get their own way at SOU. If that is what they did.
You also say, "why is it that RYR can do this, but as soon as BEE does it, I have a problem".
This statement is entirely of your making, CC, & is nothing to do with me. This is a BEE forum; I was referring to BEE. If I have anything to say about RYR, I will say it on the RYR forum.
As a matter of fact, I have no love for RYR, which I have watched develop from a one Bandeirante operation to the huge outfit it is today. I didn't think much of it then, & I don't think much of it today. Which is why I avoid it "like the plague".
I condemn these sort of practices whichever airline does them.
In this regard, I would thank you to not put words into my mouth !
But, apart from all that; I do wish BEE (& their customers) well. This improvement is a start. Let us all hope that they do not use unsuspecting passengers in this way again (your theory) & continue their improvement.