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Noticed a US registered MD11F dropping into DSA the other day and found out it's a weekly Nairobi freight flight. Surprising how much heavy cargo now seems to choose DSA over MAN.
Logistics this, logistics that, but if the airport are possibly turning away freight traffic (not the under belly stuff) then how it's supposed to be a viable business model?
Logistics this, logistics that, but if the airport are possibly turning away freight traffic (not the under belly stuff) then how it's supposed to be a viable business model?
While the T2 expansion continues the remote stands are needed for the passenger flights.
It is all about logistics.
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Hi All, Get in touch with your local mp, i am constantly badgering mine (William Wragg) about the difference in spend between us oop North and our Southern cousins.
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Indeed, and apparently Lufthansa Cargo are the next to go after Sept. FedEx keep looking at other options for their B757 and ATR, so, there may soon be NO pure cargo flights at MAN in the next 12 months.
Indeed, and apparently Lufthansa Cargo are the next to go after Sept.
At the risk of showing my age (
) but I can remember the days when many of the European flag carriers' freighters graced the tarmac daily at MAN - SAS, Swissair, KLM, Finnair, Alitalia, Aer Lingus, BOAC/BA, Sabena to name but a few. LH would be the last to go. That's progress I guess....
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That would be a great pity if true - LH freighters must have been regulars at MAN for at least the last 50 years !
At the risk of showing my age () but I can remember the days when many of the European flag carriers' freighters graced the tarmac daily at MAN - SAS, Swissair, KLM, Finnair, Alitalia, Aer Lingus, BOAC/BA, Sabena to name but a few. LH would be the last to go. That's progress I guess....
At the risk of showing my age (
) but I can remember the days when many of the European flag carriers' freighters graced the tarmac daily at MAN - SAS, Swissair, KLM, Finnair, Alitalia, Aer Lingus, BOAC/BA, Sabena to name but a few. LH would be the last to go. That's progress I guess....
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It's true that LH have withdrawn all slots for the freighters from end of Summer 2017.
Don't know if DHL will run the 757F again this winter but the future for cargo at MAN looks to be below decks. Without checking the figures I would have thought that 27M pax annually vs c.130k tonnes of cargo looks like an unusual imbalance in favour of pax compared with most other airports with similar pax volume. Shows just how much is trucked in the UK.
Don't know if DHL will run the 757F again this winter but the future for cargo at MAN looks to be below decks. Without checking the figures I would have thought that 27M pax annually vs c.130k tonnes of cargo looks like an unusual imbalance in favour of pax compared with most other airports with similar pax volume. Shows just how much is trucked in the UK.
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On the point of car parking, T1 petrol station is due to shut at the end of the month apparently and be converted into a car park! T2 petrol station is due to go the same way at the end of the year.
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I don't think this is an unreasonable interpretation, but I don't think it's accurate.
Delta "leaving" the market to VS was about expansion. More capacity to JFK and new routes to BOS/SFO. It doesn't sound like SFO/BOS have been doing as well as expected - TCX are attacking VS - but they are back next year. The winter cutbacks to ATL and JFK to something like 3/4 weekly. Getting these routes back to daily in winter should be a key objective, but overall they have been building, and we wait to see what affect the JV with AF/KL has on this, if any.
UA are in an interesting position, particularly in light of their recent retrenchment in the U.K. It looks like they are pulling back into LHR, with EDI and MAN having routes to EWR. Would they bring the 763 to MAN and EDI?
AA have obviously struggled but it's surprised me that ORD seems to have survived. This on the B788 and PHL on the A332 should provide them with the platform to succeed on those routes. Whether success here would lead to anything in the future I have no idea.
Obviously, as more routes become viable direct from MAN, BA's shuttle will become increasingly less competitive and one day they may become vulnerable.
Delta "leaving" the market to VS was about expansion. More capacity to JFK and new routes to BOS/SFO. It doesn't sound like SFO/BOS have been doing as well as expected - TCX are attacking VS - but they are back next year. The winter cutbacks to ATL and JFK to something like 3/4 weekly. Getting these routes back to daily in winter should be a key objective, but overall they have been building, and we wait to see what affect the JV with AF/KL has on this, if any.
UA are in an interesting position, particularly in light of their recent retrenchment in the U.K. It looks like they are pulling back into LHR, with EDI and MAN having routes to EWR. Would they bring the 763 to MAN and EDI?
AA have obviously struggled but it's surprised me that ORD seems to have survived. This on the B788 and PHL on the A332 should provide them with the platform to succeed on those routes. Whether success here would lead to anything in the future I have no idea.
Obviously, as more routes become viable direct from MAN, BA's shuttle will become increasingly less competitive and one day they may become vulnerable.
Just paid 1500 quid for roundtrip in J.
About 200 of that was taxes (real ones, not the YQ stuff the airline keeps)
Been buying J on this route for 20 years and don't think I ever paid less.
Ho-hum.
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It's true that LH have withdrawn all slots for the freighters from end of Summer 2017.
Don't know if DHL will run the 757F again this winter but the future for cargo at MAN looks to be below decks. Without checking the figures I would have thought that 27M pax annually vs c.130k tonnes of cargo looks like an unusual imbalance in favour of pax compared with most other airports with similar pax volume. Shows just how much is trucked in the UK.
Don't know if DHL will run the 757F again this winter but the future for cargo at MAN looks to be below decks. Without checking the figures I would have thought that 27M pax annually vs c.130k tonnes of cargo looks like an unusual imbalance in favour of pax compared with most other airports with similar pax volume. Shows just how much is trucked in the UK.
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No freighters but cargo up 20% in July
No diversions we have had a few in recently but come the winter season where do you park them
No ILS approaches, are you really suprised with it as busy as it is mind you 27 biz today
a very large bonus
It certainly kept me entertained today and to cap it a DC-3 due on Thursday
No freighters but cargo up 20% in July
No diversions we have had a few in recently but come the winter season where do you park them
No ILS approaches, are you really suprised with it as busy as it is mind you 27 biz today
a very large bonus
It certainly kept me entertained today and to cap it a DC-3 due on Thursday
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It certainly kept me entertained today and to cap it a DC-3 due on Thursday
Took a Icelandair 757F diversion from EMA last night but allegedly refused the next request from a Jet2. (yes, I know about the must have ground ops in place, somewhere to park, proof of pilots birthplace in gtr manchester, etc, etc.)
Quiet isn't it? Seen any cash laden footballers at Signature?