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[FRatSTN]

So, not as wavy as one would expect.

It can depend... what you say may be true in this instance though sometimes a higher proportion of away based flights can result in greater peaks and troughs - look at Wizz Air at LTN for instance. At least based aircraft tend to frequent at various points throughout the day... though equally can be quite extreme waves with quieter periods in between and of course tends to result in the existence of a "first wave".

It all depends though on so many variables such as aircraft turnarounds, route/sector length, time zones, asset utilization and the airlines business model to some degree - It's swings and roundabouts. I wouldn't say the ratio of based vs non-based aircraft necessarily equates to peaks and troughs in the way you might expect.

[chaps1954]

Looking at the slot allocation for T3 there are very few quiet periods during day

Ian

[roverman]

Originally Posted by chaps1954

Looking at the slot allocation for T3 there are very few quiet periods during day

Ian

Absolutely. T3 is the all-day long, all year long terminal at MAN. It does get a good night's sleep however, lacking the wee small hours arrivals which go on through the night at T1 and T2 in summer at least.

[Rob Courtney]

We passed through T3 last week, I was quite suprised how fast we got through security at 5ami it took about 5 mins. The worst part for me is the check in area. The atoumated bag drop Ryanair are using now is an absoulte nightmare and leads to long queues. coming back immigration and bag collection was better than T1

[johnw1951]

Originally Posted by Rob Courtney

.. The automated bag drop Ryanair are using now is an absoulte nightmare and leads to long queues...

Agreed. The gap between the two lines of scales/boarding card readers is too narrow to get through easily with a suitcase when there are families stood around at the first few machines. Had to persuade people in the queue in front of us to move to the far end to keep things moving.
No staff in evidence to keep the queue moving at 0415 last Wednesday. By 0445 the queue was just short of the escalator at the security end.
Not helped by the number of people who made their way alongside the queue (not realising the should have joined the end) and then meeting others coming the other way who'd done the same thing and turned round!
It's never going to be great with those sorts of numbers at one time - but could be improved with a bit of thought

[Scottie Dog]

Time for my monthly update of statistics:

Manchester Statistics - June 2017 (Part 1)

Destinations that are either new (no passengers since my records started in January 2005), or have not been served for a number of years - if the latter then the month and year of the last service is shown.

Riyadh reappears for the first time since December 2009 with 977 passengers

Two domestic statistics are currently missing from the CAA report for June.

Belfast City - in June 2016 23,821 passengers were carried and Inverness with 6,182.

Moving monthly and annual figures - based on CAA statistics

Monthly passengers - 2,725,069
Annual Total - 12,715,926
Moving Annual Total - 26,947,773




Manchester Statistics -June 2017 (Part 2)

Top 25 destinations - by passenger numbers

PALMA............................................. 111,818
ALICANTE........................................... 98,284
AMSTERDAM..................................... 87,094
MALAGA............................................ 79,984
DUBLIN.............................................. 75,830
TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA)............. 74,040
FARO.................................................. 66,730
DUBAI................................................ 62,307
PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE)............. 53,560
BARCELONA....................................... 49,650
HEATHROW....................................... 49,332
ARRICIFE............................................ 47,890
ORLANDO.......................................... 46,569
IBIZA................................................... 45,068
DALAMAN.......................................... 40,735
NEW YORK JFK................................... 38,119
PAPHOS.............................................. 36,566
MAHON............................................. 33,749
HERAKLION........................................ 32,850
LAS PALMAS....................................... 31,023
CORFU................................................ 29,925
MUNICH............................................. 29,224
FRANKFURT........................................ 29,015
COPENHAGEN.................................... 27,087
ABU DHABI......................................... 26,987

CAA statistics for June are provisional.


Manchester Statistics - June 2017 (Part 3)

Top 25 destinations with highest percentage increase.

Destination......................................Total Pax....Schedule Pax....Charter Pax....Percentage change
SAN FRANCISCO................................. 9,438............. 9,438.................. 0.................... 3916.20
LONDON CITY........................................ 369................ 369.................. 0.................... 339.29
OLBIA.................................................. 3,796............. 2,311...........1 ,487.................... 260.00
TOULOUSE.......................................... 6,576............. 6,576.................. 0.................... 208.01
BOSTON............................................ 10,875........... 10,875.................. 0.................... 162.68
MIKONOS........................................... 6,790............. 6,790................... 0................... 146.55
BERLIN (SCHONEFELD)...................... 25,205.......... 25,011............... 194................... 144.09
BASTIA................................................ 1,075............. 1,075................... 0................... 115.43
OPORTO............................................. 9,127............. 9,127................... 0.................... 110.06
HAMBURG........................................ 24,539........... 24,539.................. 0.................... 108.15
KRAKOW........................................... 13,964........... 13,964.................. 0.................... 98.606
GIBRALTAR......................................... 9,128.............. 9,128.................. 0.................... 90.067
EINDHOVEN....................................... 5,492.............. 5,492.................. 0.................... 89.118
SPLIT................................................. 12,256............ 10,660........... 1,596.................... 86,431
CUNAGUA.......................................... 4,996............... 4,996................. 0.................... 82.87
HURGHADA........................................ 8,210.............. 8,210.................. 0.................... 82.202
SALONIKA......................................... 10,048.............. 7,337.............2,711................... 69.187
STOCKHOLM (ARLANDA).................. 17,015............ 17,015................. 0..................... 66.065
ILHA DO SAL CAPE VERDE.................. 5,596............... 5,596................. 0.................... 65.709
BEZIERS.............................................. 4,019............... 4,019................. 0.................... 61.276
KARACHI............................................... 162.................. 162.................. 0................... 60.396
GDANSK............................................. 4,586............... 4,586................. 0.................... 60.238
BILBAO............................................... 6,799.............. .6,799................. 0.................... 57.202
LOS ANGELES..................................... 7,102............... 7,102................. 0.................... 52.175
LIMOGES............................................ 6,307............... 6,307................. 0................... 49.526

CAA statistics for June are provisional.


Manchester Statistics - June 2017 (Part 4)

Figures for the European and long haul destinations that I consider to be the main points for our connecting traffic.

Foreign_airport……..Total_Pax 2016……..Total Pax 2017……% change
VIENNA……………………. 8,975……….…………….. 9,526……………….. +6.1393
BRUSSELS………………. 18,018……………………. 18,293……………….. +1.5263
BEIJING…………………… 5,711………………….…… 7,190.………………. +25.897
PRAGUE…………………. 12,732……………………. 14,207…….…………. +11.585
COPENHAGEN……….. 30,252……………………. 27,087……………….. -10.46
HELSINKI…………………. 9,444…………….………. 10,995……………….. +16.423
PARIS (CDG)……………. 46,599……………………. 53,560…………….... +14.938
DUSSELDORF…………. 15,271………..………….. 20,743……………….. +35.833
FRANKFURT MAIN…. 34,319……………………. 29,015….…………….. -15.45
MUNICH…………………. 29,975..…………………. 29,224………………… -2.505
HONG KONG…………… 10,284….………………… 11,403 ……….……… +10.881
KEFLAVIK………………….. 7,869……………………… 8,549………………… +8.6415
DUBLIN…………………… 76,016……………………. 75,830………….……. -0.245
MILAN (MALPENSA).. 13,241……………………. 17,129……………….. +29.363
ROME (FIUMICINO)….. 8,606..…………………. 12,097……………….. +40.565
AMSTERDAM…………. 85,860…………………….. 87,094.……………... +1.4372
ISLAMABAD……………… 9,828..…………………….. 8,223………………. -16.33
LISBON…………………… 18,430…………………….. 24,916………..…….. +35.193
DOHA…………………….. 22,859…………………….. 19,863………………. -13.11
JEDDAH……………………. 7,179………………………. 6,546……………….. -8.817
SINGAPORE……………… 6,762……………………….. 6,632………………. -1.923
MADRID…………………. 13,890…………………….. 13,808………………. -0.59
STOCKHOLM (ARN)… 10,246…………………….. 17,015………………. +66.065
GENEVA…………………. 15,564…………………….. 17,947….………..... +15.311
ZURICH……………………. 7,779………………………. 9,735………………… +25.145
ABU DHABI…………….. 29,411……………….……. 26,987…..…………. -8.242
DUBAI……………………. 61,409.…………………….. 63,307………………. +1.4623
ATLANTA……………….. 13,208…….……………….. 12,478………………. -5.527
CHICAGO…..…………….. 9,485.………………………. 7,891………………. -16.81
HOUSTON……………..………… 0………………………. 6,199………………. +0.00
NEW YORK (JFK)……… 32,834…………………….. 38,119………..……. +16.096
NEW YORK (NEWARK). 7,472………………………. 8,109………………. +8.5252
PHILADELPHIA……………9,769……………………….10,991……..………. +12.509
HEATHROW……………. 55,109……………………… 49,332……………… -10.48

CAA statistics for June are provisional.

Manchester Statistics - June 2017 (Part 5)

Comparison of top 25 destinations - June 2007 versus June 2017

Foreign airport.............................June-07...............June-17
PALMA.............................................. 110,576.................. 111,818
HEATHROW....................................... 76,489.................. 49,332
MALAGA............................................ 70,516.................. 79,984
ALICANTE........................................... 66,908.................. 98,284
FARO.................................................. 60,494.................. 66,730
DUBLIN.............................................. 57,086.................. 75,830
DALAMAN.......................................... 56,477................. 40,735
TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA)............. 52,348.................. 74,040
AMSTERDAM..................................... 44,405.................. 87,094
IBIZA.................................................. 43,062.................. 45,068
PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE)............. 41,753.................. 53,560
PAPHOS............................................. 38,322.................. 36,566
MAHON............................................. 38,022.................. 33,749
DUBAI................................................ 36,402.................. 62,307
GATWICK........................................... 34,871........................... 2
LARNACA........................................... 34,177.................. 23,005
HERAKLION........................................ 32,931.................. 32,850
SANDFORD........................................ 32,069.................... 6,567
MALTA............................................... 24,422.................. 22,546
ORLANDO.......................................... 30,052.................. 46,569
FRANKFURT....................................... 27,934.................. 29,015
ZAKINTHOS........................................ 27,400.................. 25,159
ARRECIFE........................................... 27,004.................. 47,890
CORFU............................................... 25,255.................. 29,925
CHICAGO (O'HARE)............................ 24,537.................... 7,891

CAA are statistics for June are provisional.

[Dobbo_Dobbo]

One Roverman and one or two others might find interesting.

I hadn't realised until recently that IAH publish figures that can be used to assess the overall loads on SQ51/52.

There is a slight discrepancy between the IAH numbers and the UK's CAA numbers which is likely to be because one rotation took off from IAH in May and landed at MAN in June (or vice versa). These are highlighted below.

June 2017

21 rotations, 42 sectors.

IAH-SIN: 3,035 - 72 ave per sector.
MAN-SIN: 6,632 - 158 ave per sector
MAN IAH: 6,199 - 148 ave per sector

Note: IAH figures have IAH-MAN as 141 ave per sector.

This means the following:

SIN-MAN: 230 av per sector, 91% LF
MAN-IAH: 220 av per sector, 87% LG

If you take IAH figures, MAN-IAH is 213 per sector, 84% LF

For comparison, SQ's network average is 80% and the passenger break even load factor is 82.2%.

Compared to when the route was via DME, the MAN-IAH sectors on cargo and passenger show around a 100% improvement (i.e. They have doubled).

All in all, SQ can probably be rather pleased with the decision as this route looks to be trending in the right direction overall.

[Logohu]

Good figures for Cathay in June too. Assuming all the flights operated the average load was 259 passengers. On 280 seats that's a 92.5% load factor !!

[Dobbo_Dobbo]

It certainly is.

When you think MAN had no non-stop service to the Far East a few short years ago, to get close to 21 weekly (and with the possibility of more to come) is phenomenal.

Makes you wonder what other parts of the world are ripe to be opened up from here.

[Skipness One Echo]

When you think MAN had no non-stop service to the Far East a few short years ago, to get close to 21 weekly (and with the possibility of more to come) is phenomenal.

Good point, but the ME3 are a particular kind of flag carrying pseudo-political state entities. With more money than God they've captured market share going East in a massive way from the old legacies with their multi stop nightmare slogs across Asia. The flip side of that is that there's a host of places that might otherwise have non stop service to MAN who are now better served with a one stop option via DXB/AUH/DOH.

So in terms of variety, not ideal but better in terms of volume I think.

[VickersVicount]

outwith the current generous offerings, where do you propose MAN are missing a nonstop trick as a direct result if ME3 ?

[pwalhx]

Bangkok springs to mind.

[chaps1954]

Thai Airlines? where do you go with them, they have promised a direct service for about 20 years now, even went to a launch dinner where they announced that the service would start next spring(1997 if I remember right) so I guess I will believe that when the tyres grace the runway.
With regard to ME3 or ME4 if you include Oman Air are holding level now and probably
have reached their peak or nearly

Ian

[LAX_LHR]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

outwith the current generous offerings, where do you propose MAN are missing a nonstop trick as a direct result if ME3 ?

Bangkok is the obvious one, it's the 3rd largest unserved long haul route in the world according to OAG.

I'd then hazard a guess that Mumbai, Delhi, possibly Niarobi and even Seoul are likely missing thanks to the MEB3 taking a large slice of the action.

The latter 2 have large pax flows indirect across the board but the MEB3 likely taking the largest chunk. Also a fair amount of cargo between the points too.

[LAX_LHR]

In other news, Thomas Cook will not be bringing Miami back in 2018. There are still gaps for new routes though, as nothing has filled the Miami gaps yet.

[Una Due Tfc]

That's surprising, although there's lots of chatter on another site that they'll be doing MAN-TPA next year.

[LAX_LHR]

The issue with MIA is that it's low yielding as a stand alone destination. Had the flights been able to tie in with cruises and such, then the flight may have stood a better chance. Miami isn't exactly the top of people's city break destination, and TCX has no feed to tap into either. There are better beaches elsewhere in Florida, such as Tampa hence the rumours.

I'd dare say Fort Lauderdale could have even stood a better chance than Miami. It has more cruises should TCX tap into it, still has access to Miami, easier to get to he Everglades and is a large JetBlue hub to which TCX could feed.

[roverman]

Originally Posted by Dobbo_Dobbo

One Roverman and one or two others might find interesting.

I hadn't realised until recently that IAH publish figures that can be used to assess the overall loads on SQ51/52.

There is a slight discrepancy between the IAH numbers and the UK's CAA numbers which is likely to be because one rotation took off from IAH in May and landed at MAN in June (or vice versa). These are highlighted below.

June 2017

21 rotations, 42 sectors.

IAH-SIN: 3,035 - 72 ave per sector.
MAN-SIN: 6,632 - 158 ave per sector
MAN IAH: 6,199 - 148 ave per sector

Note: IAH figures have IAH-MAN as 141 ave per sector.

This means the following:

SIN-MAN: 230 av per sector, 91% LF
MAN-IAH: 220 av per sector, 87% LG

If you take IAH figures, MAN-IAH is 213 per sector, 84% LF

For comparison, SQ's network average is 80% and the passenger break even load factor is 82.2%.

Compared to when the route was via DME, the MAN-IAH sectors on cargo and passenger show around a 100% improvement (i.e. They have doubled).

All in all, SQ can probably be rather pleased with the decision as this route looks to be trending in the right direction overall.

Wow, if SIN-MAN is averaging 230 per flight there can be hardly anyone flying SIN-IAH as there are only 23 seats spare! Everyone gets off at MAN and the aircraft fills up again with new pax heading for IAH and a handful of transits going the full trip. Becomes a bit of a strange route for SQ then as SIN-MAN is clearly strong, but IAH not, and questionable whether MAN really needs a tag now that it's non-stop with the right-sized aircraft. IAH is sustained by MAN and not SIN.

[Navpi]

Maybe MAG s/b going after SIN FRA JFK ?

[j636]

D Dobbo

Forgive me for not understanding but surly the CAA stats for both legs include those routing SIN-IAH and MAN-IAH and vice versa.

Can you tell from IAH figures published that the 3000 marked as IAH-SIN dosnt include MAN traffic?

The route makes no sense for SQ if they are bad as this unless there is some business contract at play.

Not looked at the websites where the figures are located but way I read is, its more less 50/50 IAH to SIN and MAN if you look at the 3,000 figure and the 6,000 for MAN-IAH figure.