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Not sure if it's in the public domain or not, but there's a good 'West Pier Special' on the Manchester Airport 'PlaneTalk' app for staff about the MAN TP.
In short, it's been decided that T2 from 212 on wards will be demolished and rebuilt as opposed to 'refurbed'.
June - Modifications to stands and terminal
July - West pier gates 213-215 closed at all levels within the terminal, access will be via a large gate (made of portacabins) currently being built on stand 212 with walkways to 213, 214, 215 and 216.
September - Entire west pier closed from 212 onwards including WH Smith and Cafe Nero within the terminal itself.
All arriving pax on 213-216 will be bussed to arrivals
In short, it's been decided that T2 from 212 on wards will be demolished and rebuilt as opposed to 'refurbed'.
June - Modifications to stands and terminal
July - West pier gates 213-215 closed at all levels within the terminal, access will be via a large gate (made of portacabins) currently being built on stand 212 with walkways to 213, 214, 215 and 216.
September - Entire west pier closed from 212 onwards including WH Smith and Cafe Nero within the terminal itself.
All arriving pax on 213-216 will be bussed to arrivals
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I wonder if all you people moaning about delays would be happy if " Sorry folks, the aircraft has a technical problem, but if a majority agree, then we will fly to JFK/ATL/PHL/SFO anyway". Well?
Would you complain if your hospital operation was postponed by 24 hours, and demand £400 compensation? Of course not.
It makes us people who are really in the business, and who end up flying you, absolutely sick. Greedy complaining people, some of you. Passengers that is.
Would you complain if your hospital operation was postponed by 24 hours, and demand £400 compensation? Of course not.
It makes us people who are really in the business, and who end up flying you, absolutely sick. Greedy complaining people, some of you. Passengers that is.
I wonder if all you people moaning about delays would be happy if " Sorry folks, the aircraft has a technical problem, but if a majority agree, then we will fly to JFK/ATL/PHL/SFO anyway".
Most of the "moaning" you refer to on here relates to one airline - American Airlines - the largest airline in the world by revenue and passengers carried, and also one of the most profitable. An airline which promotes itself as a business focused airline offering a global network, hundreds of aircraft, frequent flyer schemes, lounges - and an airline which charges accordingly with some spectacularly high fares as well as the usual off-season deals. We're not talking about some fly-by-night two aircraft operation running on a shoestring and offering 50 quid return fares to the Med.
So when choosing an airline like AA you would think customers are entitled to expect both safety AND some semblance of reliability/on time performance. I have no doubt AA passes all the tests on the first count. But in recent years it has failed miserably on the second - at least as far as its MAN services are concerned, with numerous flights delayed or cancelled every month for whatever reason. It has become notorious among airport staff for poor timekeeping and indifferent service recovery when flights are cancelled (just chuck 'em on the shuttle via LHR - problem solved).
Most customers understand and accept that sh1t happens occasionally even to the biggest and best airlines in the world. But on AA at MAN reliability has become a lottery. This isn't just here say either - for example the facts for the daily Chicago and JFK flights just for the last month are :-
AA54 ORD - 8 flights delayed over an hour, and 3 flights cancelled outright
AA210 JFK - 10 flights delayed over an hour, and 4 flights cancelled outright
That's over a third of flights on both routes badly disrupted (almost half of JFK flights). Yes we know ORD and JFK are congested hubs and prone to delays, but other airlines seem to manage without badly disrupting over a third of their flights. The ancient equipment AA continue to fly on the routes probably doesn't help either - although the brief flirtation with the 787 on AA54 last summer turned out to be an even bigger operational nightmare than the 767/757s used most of the time.
Don't you think customers have a right to complain when they consistently receive such a poor service ? I suspect many have already voted with their feet and moved to the competition.
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Roy Hudd, me thinks you need to find another job, or just chill out. As for AA, they have always sucked. I used them once on the BOS-MAN flight and that was the first and last transatlantic. We have a choice, so just dump them. Was hoping that US would improve them, but alas the AA mentality and poor service has won out. Luckily I no longer need to travel from the US as I now live in Asia, but AA was not an option when you have US/CO/DL back in the day.
On MAN terminal upgrades, nobody has answered if there will be a reduction in growth, and even if the upgrade will have enough capacity to actually cater for required pax when finished?
On MAN terminal upgrades, nobody has answered if there will be a reduction in growth, and even if the upgrade will have enough capacity to actually cater for required pax when finished?
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I believe the first phase of the TP is to expand the apron to the north west (i.e. Towards the M56) with construction of that finger pier. This should create the headroom in capacity to deal with growth over the next few years.
I think there are plans for increased remote stands - but that is just here say on these boards and elsewhere.
I think there are plans for increased remote stands - but that is just here say on these boards and elsewhere.
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Flew from MAN last week, what a poor airport experience. Long queues at security, disinterested staff who were not helping people and very reminiscent of STN actually.
Still, for some reason, business class fares to US are about £1k lower than LHR, so I will make the trip again.
Still, for some reason, business class fares to US are about £1k lower than LHR, so I will make the trip again.
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And it seems the PHL flight has a 2 hour delay today too!
I'm on that flight in just under 2 weeks with a tight connection in PHL to DCA so hoping for no delays, but it's AA so who knows!
I'm on that flight in just under 2 weeks with a tight connection in PHL to DCA so hoping for no delays, but it's AA so who knows!
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Which terminal did you fly from Sealink?
I've uploaded some pictures onto SSC of the around T2.
Bus Depot is being demolished now and most of staff west is empty. There is construction equipment in the Area 7 car park removing the barriers and lights. Fencing is being built on the T2 departures level.
I've uploaded some pictures onto SSC of the around T2.
Bus Depot is being demolished now and most of staff west is empty. There is construction equipment in the Area 7 car park removing the barriers and lights. Fencing is being built on the T2 departures level.
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Which terminal did you fly from Sealink?
I've uploaded some pictures onto SSC of the around T2.
Bus Depot is being demolished now and most of staff west is empty. There is construction equipment in the Area 7 car park removing the barriers and lights. Fencing is being built on the T2 departures level.
I've uploaded some pictures onto SSC of the around T2.
Bus Depot is being demolished now and most of staff west is empty. There is construction equipment in the Area 7 car park removing the barriers and lights. Fencing is being built on the T2 departures level.
I think I used it before for the inaugural Little Red flight and I don't think it has changed since.
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Could have guessed, T3 is the worst terminal at MAN. Security is poor and the small corridor after security is chaotic if there is a flight boarding on a nearby gate.
Station quite a way (10 minute walk) from the check in however this is similar at Heathrow. The only difference at Heathrow is that you don't leave the building on the way to check in. I suspect that this is why it feels longer to get to check in at MAN. There are at least three lifts and two buildings between the station and T3.
Station quite a way (10 minute walk) from the check in however this is similar at Heathrow. The only difference at Heathrow is that you don't leave the building on the way to check in. I suspect that this is why it feels longer to get to check in at MAN. There are at least three lifts and two buildings between the station and T3.
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Coincidentally I flew from T3 this morning for the first time in ages - passed through security in 10 minutes just before 6am which I was expecting to be pretty busy. Felt it compared well with most places...
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Also 5th weekly Hainan starts today (Thursday), and then goes daily from 1 July until end of September with mix of B788/B789 aircraft
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Went through T2 last week (24th) and was amazed at the service. From leaving the car, checking in and passing through security took 20 minutes, admittidly it was mid morning but I expected increased security after what happened in the city centre. It was there but it wasnt readily noticable. Similar experience last night/this morning it took about 30 mins to clear immigration (they where pushing a lot of people through the e gates and they are a tad slow but the luggage was on the belt when we got to the hall so it was just a case of pick up and leave.
Interesting experience landing on 23L and back taxiing as well.
Interesting experience landing on 23L and back taxiing as well.
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BA TATL
Would have thought the only considerations are who has the most suitable airframe and is that airframe more profitably deployed here or elsewhere.
Assuming the route is sufficiently profitable, who actually operates it surely isn't that relevant to either company.
Which airframe would BA use? 788?
Why would a BA 788 be a better choice than an AA 788?
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Why would a BA 788 be a better choice than an AA 788?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
