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Old 7th Sep 2016, 16:53
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Originally Posted by azz767
On a lighter note, the AA54 was EARLY, yes EARLY this morning.
Are you sure it wasn't yesterday's running just under a day late?!
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 17:12
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Ok let me complete the original question for you.....
Do you have nothing better to do with your life?
...other than to troll the Manchester thread with your sarcastic and unwanted jibes?
So you're a tour guide.......Sounds.....very important. Good luck with it.

Getting back to Manchester Airport matters - security - maybe I've been lucky but this has been the first summer in years that I haven't been seriously delayed at security at least once. I honestly think that the management have tried to address this issue seriously, as in the overflow facility at T1. However, like all best laid plans, now and again the wheels come off. Luck of the draw probably and trying where ever possible to avoid the first wave of flights out.
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 19:01
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I went through T1 security at around 12:30 on Monday. It took me about 5 minutes in FastTrack. The queue for non FastTrack was almost back to the barriers. However, this is not normally an issue, as the queue moves pretty quickly.

One thing I've noticed recently is that they close the main security area, and direct people of to the left somewhere. It's this a new entrance, or is it the Jet2 entrance?

As an aside, the Escape lounge was refusing entry to everyone because it was full... Even people who had a booking! There was a blazing row going on at the door I had to settle for a sandwich at Pret.
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One thing I've noticed recently is that they close the main security area, and direct people of to the left somewhere. It's this a new entrance, or is it the Jet2 entrance?
Next to the TCX desks off to the left is a stair case to the downstairs security area which acts as an overspill when the main security area is struggling.
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 19:30
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Another issue Manchester airport has to seriously look at is traffic congestion. As someone who works at the airport, the time to get from T1 to T3 by road for example can at times take 15+ minutes! A distance of what, half a mile! Whoever devised the drop off area at T3 must have been about 12 yrs old with a crayon and blank bit of paper. Also those 'Traffic Marshalls' want to try stop standing around looking at the world going by and try to keep traffic flowing.��
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 20:00
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"The trouble with Virgin trains is that there is no competition between London and Manchester and therefore prices are eye-wateringly high in the morning. Someone like RYR could compete on price even when the last bit into central London is (ironically) by train. I would travel to London more often if there was a cheaper alternative than Virgin Trains."

The way that competition on the railways work is that companies bid to run the franchise beforehand. It's not necessarily multiple operators on the same route.
DfT set those fares at that level to deter passengers from travelling at that time given how congested the trains are, they are actively trying to discourage people from travelling at that time.

Come HS2 massive new capacity on the service reduces that requirement to throttle demand through price.
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 20:16
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Security queues

The T1 security area near Jet2 check in I have always found to be fairly quick and hassle free to pass through. This August I flew with Thomson so therefore T2. The security queue at around 5am was rediculous, we snaked an hour just to get to the front of the queue. Staff were calling people forward who's flights were about to depart. This only made the wait longer for everyone else. Therefore this kept been repeated. We checked in at least 2 hours before the flight and only just got to make a flying visit to WHS before boarding the plane.

The worst part of this experience was that what looked like half of the security lanes were sat there unused! I was looking forward to spending some time exploring T2 departures. It was a good job we were able to buy food on the flight.
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 20:19
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The problem with the drop off area at T3 is that it was never designed to operate how it currently does. Before the Glasgow incident and the subsequent barriering off of terminal forecourts it was a lot better as there was more space for people to drop off.
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 22:05
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Re GrahamBrady MP

"Is it morally ambiguous for an MP with Mancunian constituency to be keen on increasing aviation impacts over others re his evangelical support of Heathrow? "

Cannot help thinking MAG marketing may have been reading this thread and thought how can we snare this weasel!
If they asked Labour for a comment he would have zero option but to respond in kind. Gotcha!
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 23:04
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Originally Posted by BDLBOS

I still don't understand why they would build a new pier back to back with pier c, then lose one side of each? Why not put pier 3 at the Northern end, where they are thinking of building one and still use C, less the end of course.
I believe that area is going to be a super busing complex for both terminals
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 23:06
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Graham Brady has every right to support South East airport expansion or not. It is called free speech and democracy.

You might not agree with him, and that too is called free speech and democracy.

The South East needs another runway somewhere to serve London. London is just not the UK capital. It is a major, highly successful, global city. But rightly, Manchester needs to expand too. I am sure he supports both ambitions.

Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham or Liverpool could never be a replacement or a substitute for London. Those airports will expand serving their local catchments. The money is just not there in the region's at it never will be. That is why most global airlines are not really interested in expanding in the UK outside of London.

It is also the reason, that Thomas Cook Airlines has begun to develop a very successful network of long haul services out of Manchester serving the budget conscious travellers in the North of England and Scotland.
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and ironically of a better standard than many of the US operators so don`t knock Tommy Cook
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The worst part of this experience was that what looked like half of the security lanes were sat there unused!
Because everything is done as cheaply as possible.

Terminal one staff entrance has one security lane. At busy times in the morning it takes for ever so I always make sure I am last on the bus from Staff West so first off and first in the queue.

You have to be in Staff West 30 mins before report to ensure you are on time, just what you need before departing on a long day to Cyprus and back having got up stupidly early.

Why don't they have security for flight crew who have flight time limitations to consider and security for other airport staff? Of course they could just create more security lanes and employ more security staff.

I can hardly wait to find out how long the bus journey will be from the car park when Staff West is closed to allow the ramp extension. Of course they would not consider staff car parking near to the terminal for those involved in safety critical jobs who do not really want to be eating into their minimum rest period trundling back and forth on a bus when that car parking can be sold to passengers for a premium. Why would they consider putting safety ahead of profit?
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Old 8th Sep 2016, 08:40
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Manchester Airport mucking in and helping with route promotion again.

https://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/...s-competition/

Good to see.

and full page on new destination Houston in Greater Manchester Business Week (also still pushing Hainan with articles and adverts).

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Old 8th Sep 2016, 10:28
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Graham Brady has every right to support South East airport expansion or not. It is called free speech and democracy
Not when he should be a representative of his constituents.
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Old 8th Sep 2016, 12:13
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Not when he should be a representative of his constituents.
Of course they should Turin. But MPs are also there to ensure that decisions are also taken in the national interest, not just local ones - although these shouldn't necessarily be mutually exclusive.
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One of my neighbours uses Staff West and believes there is a plan to re-locate some staff parking to a remote-site near Urmston. Surely this cannot be true?
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Old 8th Sep 2016, 15:14
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New Staff parking is going to be adjacent to the Altrincham Wilmslow road I have been led to believe. I think the car park has recently been constructed.

Remote staff parking at Urmston is a bit to remote. I was suggesting, if they felt off airport was the way to go, some where between Congleton and Wilmslow would be the ideal location. It would at least be convenient for myself.
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Old 8th Sep 2016, 16:18
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Just google 107821/FO/2015/S2

Formation of storage area for operational vehicles including a long stay car park (2,500 spaces in total), realignment of Sunbank Lane, new vehicular access from Wilmslow Old Road, associated landscaping, lighting (a total of 48 no. 8 metre high columns), boundary treatments and car parking area for church, following demolition of buildings on site. | Land Bounded By Wilmslow Old Road, Sunbank Lane And Wilmslow Road Woodhouse Park Manchester WA15 8XQ
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Old 8th Sep 2016, 17:36
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It will be 40 minutes pre check in and 20 mins from check out added onto your day from that car park.

I must remind myself how to complete a fatigue report!
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