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Dozens of MPs urge the Government to agree on a third runway for Heathrow by the end of July
Hope employees of Manchester Airport are reading.
#GrahamBrady
Nothing short of bizarre that a Mancunian MP is so evangelical about Heathrow. He was even main sponsor WHY ?
http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2015-16/1162
Hope employees of Manchester Airport are reading.
#GrahamBrady
Nothing short of bizarre that a Mancunian MP is so evangelical about Heathrow. He was even main sponsor WHY ?
http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2015-16/1162
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Good to see Oman Air coming to Manchester (it was a well kept secret as I have been working in Oman at the airport) and nobody said anything there !
Good carrier in my admittedly limited experience.
As for MP and 3rd runway I think they will see what happens post referendum, if we vote to leave will there be the demand long term ? Just a thought, and as for banning night flights what will happen to those early morning arrivals at around 5.00pm as you are already towed to the ramp rather than taxi under own power, or at least we were on my last visit which I agree was some years ago now.
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Good to see Oman Air coming to Manchester (it was a well kept secret as I have been working in Oman at the airport) and nobody said anything there !
Good carrier in my admittedly limited experience.
As for MP and 3rd runway I think they will see what happens post referendum, if we vote to leave will there be the demand long term ? Just a thought, and as for banning night flights what will happen to those early morning arrivals at around 5.00pm as you are already towed to the ramp rather than taxi under own power, or at least we were on my last visit which I agree was some years ago now.
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The detailed April stats are now on the MAN web site.
http://mag-umbraco-media-live.s3.ama...ffic-stats.pdf
http://mag-umbraco-media-live.s3.ama...ffic-stats.pdf
Very encouraging figures. It doesn't seem all that long ago when "Charter" was easily the largest trqffic category every month, lead by names like Dan air, Laker, Britannia, British Airtours, Caledonian and so many more.
How times and the market have changed !
How times and the market have changed !
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Just read this on another aviation website, so cannot confirm, but sound interesting:
Apparently Norwegian have put stand requests in for 4 based B737-800 and 2 B787-8 from March 2017.
Apparently Norwegian have put stand requests in for 4 based B737-800 and 2 B787-8 from March 2017.
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Is it possible Manchester could become slot constrained hence the gold rush for growth?
Clearly not after 10am and by 1400 it can be incredibly quiet. But Manchester is the type of airport where market forces determine an early morning operation.
Clearly not after 10am and by 1400 it can be incredibly quiet. But Manchester is the type of airport where market forces determine an early morning operation.
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Apparently Norwegian have put stand requests in for 4 based B737-800 and 2 B787-8 from March 2017.
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Stand availability seems tight overnight. During the day there are throughs but I think more based aircraft at the moment would be hard unless carriers agree to do more bussing on a daily basis. Already there are issues with widebody stands, causing things like the Cathay being towed of to allow singapore on, or forcing widebodies onto remote because of lack of contact stands.
There are definitly times when there is capacity, but also times when there doesn't seem to be. The good bit is most of the time there seems to be runway capacity (although at times there might be capacity issues in or out, but rarely both at once) but then if you've got no stands available that doesn't help. Also eventually ground capacity will probably be the limiting factor.
Now all of the above is completely my own speculation and could be completely wrong.
Norwegian moving in would be an interesting move. However to fight what battle? Go head to head against Thomas Cook on long haul to the US? Fight ryanair, easyjet, thomson, monarch and jet2 to spain and the canaries? I'm sure there are places left to fill in the market, but I also fear a blood bath if too many carriers move in once the inevitable dip in the economy comes again.
There are definitly times when there is capacity, but also times when there doesn't seem to be. The good bit is most of the time there seems to be runway capacity (although at times there might be capacity issues in or out, but rarely both at once) but then if you've got no stands available that doesn't help. Also eventually ground capacity will probably be the limiting factor.
Now all of the above is completely my own speculation and could be completely wrong.
Norwegian moving in would be an interesting move. However to fight what battle? Go head to head against Thomas Cook on long haul to the US? Fight ryanair, easyjet, thomson, monarch and jet2 to spain and the canaries? I'm sure there are places left to fill in the market, but I also fear a blood bath if too many carriers move in once the inevitable dip in the economy comes again.
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I hope that MAG has contingency plans to provide an incremental apron extension with some urgency. Other carriers are believed to be interested in increasing based units too, and new services such as the Oman Air schedule must be accommodated also. The new stands being constructed to the NW of T2 are required for TP-generated overspill. There is a pressing need to provide more aircraft stands for underlying expansion of schedules in addition to these. The T3 capacity issue has already been raised on here. T1 is headed for a stand-availability crunch as well.
Do you know which carriers? If it is the locos then it can probay be addressed by an extension to terminal 3 to the north? My feeling is that in 10 years we will see plans to demolish and redevelop this site as well so anything done here can be reasonably inexpensive.
An alternative to provide more contact stands would be to build the 4th finger pier of the extended T2 which is currently planned to be non contact stand (the area currently/recently used as a car park).
If runway capacity becomes an issue, surely things can be done to increase this (e.g. Air traffic controll procedures, landing aids, taxiways, crossing points)?
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Nice to see the area reclaimed from car parking at the end of T2 being used by aircraft again yesterday. Are there any more car parks in that area for the chop?
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There have been rumours of Oman Air but daily flights is a bit of a surprise.
What aircraft type will it likely be?
What aircraft type will it likely be?
I'm not surprised. I think Oman realize they are the "Johnny come lately" and if they are going to make any inroads at all into the well established turf of the MEB3, Turkish, PIA etc they need to at least have a daily offering. Get ready for some bargain prices to the subcontinent if you're into that sort of thing !
Also the new MCT terminal should be open by now, else very soon, and this should be a more pleasant and less crowded experience than changing planes in DXB.
Dozens of MPs urge the Government to agree on a third runway for Heathrow by the end of July
Hope employees of Manchester Airport are reading.
#GrahamBrady
Nothing short of bizarre that a Mancunian MP is so evangelical about Heathrow. He was even main sponsor WHY ?
Early day motion 1162 - FINAL DECISION ON AIRPORT EXPANSION IN LONDON AND THE SOUTH EAST - UK Parliament
Hope employees of Manchester Airport are reading.
#GrahamBrady
Nothing short of bizarre that a Mancunian MP is so evangelical about Heathrow. He was even main sponsor WHY ?
Early day motion 1162 - FINAL DECISION ON AIRPORT EXPANSION IN LONDON AND THE SOUTH EAST - UK Parliament
If a decision was going to be made, it would have been done at the start of the new government (this time last year), once the "pesky Libdems" were out of the way.
Basically, they've wasted millions on the Davis Commission for no good reason.......
As for MP and 3rd runway I think they will see what happens post referendum, if we vote to leave will there be the demand long term ?
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Yes, and it makes direct flights to India less likely.
In the same way that having a plethora of airlines providing links over their hubs to Hong Kong and China has stopped Cathay Pacific start non-stop to Hong Kong with Hainan Airlines to Beijing from June (and may be Xi'an next year) with a nod and a wink for Air China to Shanghai?
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In the same way that having a plethora of airlines providing links over their hubs to Hong Kong and China has stopped Cathay Pacific start non-stop to Hong Kong with Hainan Airlines to Beijing from June (and may be Xi'an next year) with a nod and a wink for Air China to Shanghai?
A plethora of passengers going MAN-India (or wherever) via Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Doha, Onan serves to prove that underlying demand for the route is there.
In this instance I would hope to see that the Chinese carriers entering the market will stimulate Cathay Pacific and Singapore's proposed improvements. In time I hope it will stimulate the Japanese carriers, as well as some of the other far eastern carriers.
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Given you are usually spot on with your info Spanners, I'm going to say that sounds pretty certain.
Would this be at the expense of delta however, or an addition?
I believe Delta will be B767 but 5 weekly for some part of the winter, so, could VS be backfilling the capacity?
What I would also like VS to do is utilise the 2nd based A330 a bit more in the summer.
As it stands, it does 3 weekly LAS in the summer peak, and just sits at MAN for 4 days a week doing nothing. The A340-600 did exactly the same last summer. Surely there must be something they can use that A330 on? Even if it's a 2nd daily ATL, JFK or more MCO. People love the house of the mouse.
Would this be at the expense of delta however, or an addition?
I believe Delta will be B767 but 5 weekly for some part of the winter, so, could VS be backfilling the capacity?
What I would also like VS to do is utilise the 2nd based A330 a bit more in the summer.
As it stands, it does 3 weekly LAS in the summer peak, and just sits at MAN for 4 days a week doing nothing. The A340-600 did exactly the same last summer. Surely there must be something they can use that A330 on? Even if it's a 2nd daily ATL, JFK or more MCO. People love the house of the mouse.