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Old 11th Aug 2015, 09:43
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Actually not really relevant to either as I think it is aimed at DUB as
a main with possibly LGW but as there are very few LGW FR flights
DUB is the most likely gain with all their long haul to the states

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Manchester Airport records busiest July in its 77-year history - Manchester Evening News

An upbeat story, but if Emirates really did only carry 38,000 pax on MAN flights, it would be the worst month for years! I suspect that may be the number of departing passengers and exclude arrivals, but who knows.
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Austrian confirmed switch from F100 to E195 from 24th April.
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Is it not the FK70 to start with?
Was on one of these last week - a bit 'long in the tooth' feel about them
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Seems to be mostly F100 to begin with, not many F70 dates at all.

The fleet is being retired, so, there is a gradual change to the emb, with Manchester being in the 2nd batch of changes. First batch is January, then April, then July/August.
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I suspect that may be the number of departing passengers and exclude arrivals, but who knows.
Has to be. The MAN-DXB-MAN July stats over recent years from the CAA:

2014: 66890
2013: 64433
2012: 57691
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Has to be. The MAN-DXB-MAN July stats over recent years from the CAA:

2014: 66890
2013: 64433
2012: 57691
Outbound pax and not inbound is certainly one possible explanation, but if so, it should have been made clear. Or it may just be inaccurate reporting (68,000 and not 38,000 maybe?

Anyway the CAA provisional stats which should be released next Monday will tell us.
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Well let's remember at MAN, there are soon to be lots of terminal moves, with T1 eventually closing.

AA, IB and BA will be moving to T2, so, one would assume Vueling could head over there with them.

KL, ADR and AF will also be going to T2.

T3 is going to be pretty much Flybe, Aurigny, Ryanair and Jet2 exclusive going by reported requests from them.
I assume this is going to be for when the two Terminals have merged? If so, then I think they may need to make some access for domestic flights for T2 as I thought they couldn't be handled from here?

Also I assume Monarch, Thomson & Virgin Atlantic will be still T2 once it's complete?

QR023/024 becomes QR045/046 from 25OCT15.
Changing back to old flight numbers I notice.
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Must confess I would only see the RYR deal as an opportunity re MAN if we had hordes of RYR arriving between 7 and 10.
If only we had that kind of connectivity!

This to me appears to be a masterplan for Dublin !!!

If it's not a MAJOR competitive threat I do not know what is !
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Having lost out to IAG in acquiring EI, it is perhaps not too surprising if MOL is serious about the feeder concept. If it happens, it would certainly appear to enhance DUB as a competitor to MAN. However, what capacity constraints are there now at DUB in terms of terminals and runway? It must be be pretty busy early morning with based a/c and then after the first wave of arrivals.

It could put US pre-clearance at MAN higher up the priority list. Incidentally, has there been any feedback from the visit by US personnel a couple of weeks ago in that regard?
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US immigration pre-clearance: controversial in more ways than one | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Meanwhile see above
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Excellent link Bagso. The article includes a very interesting and important section on MAN and why it is so keen to get US p/c. with the threat from other airports, notably DUB.
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Cargo looking to be boosting up at MAN now.

Lufthansa adding a B77F from LAX on Tuesday's from 15th Sept, DHL start 14th Sept with a 5 weekly B757 to Leipzig and Air Bridge Cargo looking good for April 2016 based B747-8F.

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Etihad now advertising double daily 77W all winter. Previously their website showed one each of 77W and A332.
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Old 14th Aug 2015, 12:09
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Vueling will be at least 10 weekly to Barcelona next summer, based on internal schedules.

VY8748 BCN 1315 MAN 1450
VY8749 MAN 1530 MAN 1850

Daily from 30/3/16 on non based aircraft

VY8735 MAN 0655 BCN 1020
VY8736 BCN 1050 MAN 1135

Fri, Sat, Sun from 26/6/16 on based aircraft
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Re: Etihad - Yes, I have had a couple of emails from Etihad this last week advising me of seat change / slight flight duration changes for bookings already made for January, so makes sense now with an aircraft type swap.
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Vueling will be at least 10 weekly to Barcelona next summer, based on internal schedules.

VY8735 MAN 0655 BCN 1020
VY8736 BCN 1050 MAN 1135

Fri, Sat, Sun from 26/6/16 on based aircraft
Thanks for the info LAX, and also your previous post re freighters.

Is the aircraft based all week at MAN, which presumably would mean a few other destinations?
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Aircraft will be based all week but other routes not released yet. Website schedules likely to be updated around November time to reflect the schedules.
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Stats for July show that Cathay Pacific could only muster up a measly 96.1% load factor!

Also, our Turkish Airlines flights are now fast approaching the LGW figures, may overtake them for August.
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CAA Provisional July Stats.

Yes, a remarkable result for CX with an average load of 327 out of 340 seats.

Other average loads (a/l) for long haul routes going East (without knowing the exact mix of a/c for EY, QR and SV, I've not tried to estimate LFs):

SQ a/l 180 (up 12% on July'14)

SV a/l 245 (up 46%)

EK a/l 396 (up 10%) and I reckon a LF of 85.2%

EY a/l 349 (up 5%)

QR a/l 223 (up 26%)

The US picture is mixed and I'll post those figures separately, but if anyone knows the number of cancellations, notably for AA 210/211 or AA 54/55, it would help. I had 1 cancellation noted for UA 80/81.
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