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More Manchester, sniping from LN KGL. Oslo must be the jewel in the Scandinavian crown then surely. Why bother posting as your obviously very anti Manchester.
No, I disagree.
There are many cities which I would consider "once only" destinations, including Paris, New York (actually once was too much!), Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, - and London.
Generally you've got to have a reason to visit a city more than once - perhaps, as has been alluded to, football - which the Northwest certainly has in it's favour.
It's not necessarily a question of being "anti Manchester" so much as being interested in visiting new places.
There are many cities which I would consider "once only" destinations, including Paris, New York (actually once was too much!), Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, - and London.
Generally you've got to have a reason to visit a city more than once - perhaps, as has been alluded to, football - which the Northwest certainly has in it's favour.
It's not necessarily a question of being "anti Manchester" so much as being interested in visiting new places.
I'd disagree slightly. MAN doesn't have that much to offer sight seeing wise (I'm talking castles, Houses of Parliament, world renowned statues etc) but what it lacks in that it makes up in culture and general vibe. Therefore, IMO it lends itself very much to the repeat traveller. You'd also be surprised at the inbound sectors on Fridays from places such as AMS, HAM, CPH etc.... And not just football fans either. Indeed, Central Manchester in general is alive with the sound of trolley bags on a Sunday afternoon as people head home.
That said though, MAN has always been heavily skewed towards the outbound market and a surprisingly affluent one at that..... Those business and first seats aren't all being filled by business bods. Basilbrush is spot on when he says that we should never forget our bread and butter. IMO this should extend to when carriers launch "yet another route to the med" moaners.
That said though, MAN has always been heavily skewed towards the outbound market and a surprisingly affluent one at that..... Those business and first seats aren't all being filled by business bods. Basilbrush is spot on when he says that we should never forget our bread and butter. IMO this should extend to when carriers launch "yet another route to the med" moaners.
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bayer328 -
There is no need to take LN-KGL's posting so personally. And remember that denigrating another city is a very immature way of demonstrating appreciation for your own.
I have visited probably in excess of 200 cities around Europe on citybreaks. And whilst I enjoyed seeing most of them, it is not illogical that the one just visited rarely remains the top priority for my next excursion. There are always new places to see and enjoy. Prioritising the unexplored implies no slight against those already experienced by an enterprising tourist.
As residents, we believe that Manchester can offer an excellent citybreak experience for the right customer. And with the benefit of our local knowledge, we can also point to a wealth of attractions within easy reach which would keep a suitably briefed visitor intrigued for a month. BUT, most overseas tourists don't know about these ... it is up to us to market the wider region effectively. A visitor who has 'seen and done' Manchester may be wholly unaware of Chester, The Lake District, Snowdonia, York / Durham and many other amazing places easily accessed via this airport.
Where I diverge from LN-KGL is in his use of the word "many". There are actually "many" potential citybreak customers who have never visited Manchester. They far outnumber those who have. The city must work to persuade these to consider a visit. And then educate them about the further attractions which lie within easy reach of Manchester Airport. Manchester can serve as a central base for visits to a wider region offering a wealth of natural beauty, history and culture.
Many visitors may indeed make a citybreak to Manchester just the once. That is not a snub, just the real world. They will be looking to enjoy new destinations. If we can persuade them to return and enjoy the wider region on a future visit, great. But most importantly, we need them to return home and tell their FRIENDS that Manchester is a brilliant choice for THEIR next citybreak.
There is no need to take LN-KGL's posting so personally. And remember that denigrating another city is a very immature way of demonstrating appreciation for your own.
I have visited probably in excess of 200 cities around Europe on citybreaks. And whilst I enjoyed seeing most of them, it is not illogical that the one just visited rarely remains the top priority for my next excursion. There are always new places to see and enjoy. Prioritising the unexplored implies no slight against those already experienced by an enterprising tourist.
As residents, we believe that Manchester can offer an excellent citybreak experience for the right customer. And with the benefit of our local knowledge, we can also point to a wealth of attractions within easy reach which would keep a suitably briefed visitor intrigued for a month. BUT, most overseas tourists don't know about these ... it is up to us to market the wider region effectively. A visitor who has 'seen and done' Manchester may be wholly unaware of Chester, The Lake District, Snowdonia, York / Durham and many other amazing places easily accessed via this airport.
Where I diverge from LN-KGL is in his use of the word "many". There are actually "many" potential citybreak customers who have never visited Manchester. They far outnumber those who have. The city must work to persuade these to consider a visit. And then educate them about the further attractions which lie within easy reach of Manchester Airport. Manchester can serve as a central base for visits to a wider region offering a wealth of natural beauty, history and culture.
Many visitors may indeed make a citybreak to Manchester just the once. That is not a snub, just the real world. They will be looking to enjoy new destinations. If we can persuade them to return and enjoy the wider region on a future visit, great. But most importantly, we need them to return home and tell their FRIENDS that Manchester is a brilliant choice for THEIR next citybreak.
As residents, we believe that Manchester can offer an excellent citybreak experience for the right customer. And with the benefit of our local knowledge, we can also point to a wealth of attractions within easy reach which would keep a suitably briefed visitor intrigued for a month. BUT, most overseas tourists don't know about these ... it is up to us to market the wider region effectively. A visitor who has 'seen and done' Manchester may be wholly unaware of Chester, The Lake District, Snowdonia, York / Durham and many other amazing places easily accessed via this airport.
This is a problem created by the UK Tourism industry that concentrates it's efforts on London, then a handfull other locations such as Stratford uopn Avon, and York - but the premise is that during your trip you WILL go to London (by order!).
The rest of UK really needs to band together and promote the Midlands, Northwest, Northeast, Southwest and Wales properly - Bord Failte, originating from the Irish Republic, does a fair job for NI I believe and Scotland looks after itself.
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Manchester ranks 3rd in places to visit in the UK preceded by Edinburgh, and top spot goes to London, and as was widely followed on another forum the New York times ranked us 26th in the top 52 places to visit in 2015...that`s not bad, CX gave Manchester excellent coverage in their inflight mag when MAN-HKG service started, however I agree Visit Britain needs to market cities like Manchester and surrounding areas e.g the Lake District etc more widely.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...2015.html?_r=3
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...2015.html?_r=3
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bayer328, the last year I sadly have to admit that I have only had one flight to MAN - in August last year. After that I've been busy the next two months fighting cancer (I'm now cancer free, but you never know if and when the big C will make a new visit). After that I've had a one week work trip to Hampshire last week in November and three weeks ago I was back after almost two weeks in Chile (again a work trip). What the coming months will bring I don't know, but I guess MAN will get two or four passengers in their statistics because of me this spring and summer. This is below my yearly average the last 13 years, but then I'm scheduled for a corrective plastic surgery in May. The main reason for me flying to MAN is not connected to the colours red and light blue. I have found my home away from home in your neighbourhood - a small hotel in Cheshire. This spot is perfect for exploring the northern part of Wales, Midlands, Yorkshire and the Humber and obviously the North West region.
Now a few examples of what I've done based in Cheshire:
- Visited a secret hangar filled with ex. Sovjet aircraft.
- Interviewed the BBMF boss for their 50 season (2007) Al Pinner and had longer chat with the next boss Ian Smith about the differences between flying Merlin and Griffon engined Spitfires.
- Searched and found the last hangar at Burtonwood (only weeks later it was gone).
- Visited the Hack Green secret nuclear bunker.
- After having finished a pint at the RAF 617 squadron pub I payed my respect to the victims by visiting the nearby graveyard.
- Learn more about the use of Tall Boy sinking the Tirpitz at Yorkshire Air museum.
- Bought an icecream at Scripps Garage.
- Found Eastvale.
The last two are not exactly connected to aviation or the military, but still some of you will nod knowingly.
Now a few examples of what I've done based in Cheshire:
- Visited a secret hangar filled with ex. Sovjet aircraft.
- Interviewed the BBMF boss for their 50 season (2007) Al Pinner and had longer chat with the next boss Ian Smith about the differences between flying Merlin and Griffon engined Spitfires.
- Searched and found the last hangar at Burtonwood (only weeks later it was gone).
- Visited the Hack Green secret nuclear bunker.
- After having finished a pint at the RAF 617 squadron pub I payed my respect to the victims by visiting the nearby graveyard.
- Learn more about the use of Tall Boy sinking the Tirpitz at Yorkshire Air museum.
- Bought an icecream at Scripps Garage.
- Found Eastvale.
The last two are not exactly connected to aviation or the military, but still some of you will nod knowingly.
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LN-KGL I had wondered where you were, I hope all is OK now
Just out of interest you posted on another forum which I cannot post on as it has a problem logging people in now on that you quoted the passenger figures of 22.4M late 2006 was this the total passengers incl
transit or terminal figures as I believe MAG use the latter which peaked at
22,263,687 in July 2006 and slowly declined after that and Dec was 22,143,999 . these figures are taken from their own published statistics
and run fairly close to the CAA figures.
ian
Just out of interest you posted on another forum which I cannot post on as it has a problem logging people in now on that you quoted the passenger figures of 22.4M late 2006 was this the total passengers incl
transit or terminal figures as I believe MAG use the latter which peaked at
22,263,687 in July 2006 and slowly declined after that and Dec was 22,143,999 . these figures are taken from their own published statistics
and run fairly close to the CAA figures.
ian
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My goodness some "national coverage" about Manchester, albeit a few lines in the Express about record figures.
Sadly in order to gain some mileage about the Manchester figs it appears they had to crowbar them in as an after thought , with a lead headline about, wait for it, long haul at Stanstead .......or is it Stansted ! oops
Anyway we are in there if you hang on........................ till the end !
Stanstead to offer long-distance flights | Personal Finance | Finance | Daily Express
PS how on earth do you get the airport name wrong when an image of the airport with the name ON actually appears under same headline, marvelous !
Sadly in order to gain some mileage about the Manchester figs it appears they had to crowbar them in as an after thought , with a lead headline about, wait for it, long haul at Stanstead .......or is it Stansted ! oops
Anyway we are in there if you hang on........................ till the end !
Stanstead to offer long-distance flights | Personal Finance | Finance | Daily Express
PS how on earth do you get the airport name wrong when an image of the airport with the name ON actually appears under same headline, marvelous !
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Get it right!
Also mixing up people.....under the recently announced re-shuffle Ken O'Toole is MD of Manchester Airport (MAN), not MAG. He has no remit for Stansted, which the quote implies. Andrew Harrison is STN MD.
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PS how on earth do you get the airport name wrong when an image of the airport with the name ON actually appears under same headline, marvelous !
Long lines at Terminal 3 Border.
Flew in yesterday lunchtime to Terminal 3 and was greeted with a long line for Passport Control. Took about 15 - 20 minutes to reach the desks, far slower than recent trips through Terminal 1. No good enough.
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Maybe they're just double checking everything.
Four arrested at Manchester Airport on suspicion of terrorism - BBC News
Four arrested at Manchester Airport on suspicion of terrorism - BBC News
