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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 15:56
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Do we know the reason for the apparent change of plan from a crew change to aircraft change. Hope its nothing to do with MAN
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 15:58
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A380 has a tech issue by all accounts.
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 17:50
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Bit of AFR fest going on at MAN right now...380 and 320 on the ground, 318 just landed, our own 320 not far behind...and another rescue 320 not far behind that ! Bet there are some really peeved pax on that 380 right now !!
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 18:10
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Well at least AF seem to be pulling out all the stops to get them home instead of dumping them in a hotel until the A388 is fixed to fly them the hour over the channel.


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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 20:29
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All the stops or not, those pax should have left JFK nearly 24 hours ago, I predict no matter how much effort we know how much AFR has put in at MAN today those pax will still be far less than happy bunnies.

The 380 has just left by the way - ironically and probably quite annoyingly for the pax, before the 3 rescue flights have departed !

I'd say the pax we're on the 380, but the way it lifted I doubt it.

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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 20:49
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Just watched a video with ATC recordings from AF007, and it sounds like the handling was a bit chaotic.


5 hours on the ground and it sounds like the captain had no idea who was handling them or where the handlers were, to the point they were asking ATC for info on pax and if he could offload them.
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 21:15
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Getting more tit bits off social media than anywhere else where at the minute...here's a cracker of a rumour...

"Heres a good one for you, just had the 'competition watch' email at work, and it refers to the fact Qantas are announcing their results on Thursday. Interestingly, there is a quote from Alan Joyce, supposedly said on Friday, that 'we have now streamlined our business to core routes....in Europe we still have aspirations to establish routes to Manchester and Amsterdam." Credit S Davies
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 21:32
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Air France must have a station manager at Manchester would it not be his job to speak to the captain and liase with handling agent.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 14:11
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Despite the recent Thomas Cook Airlines possible sell off, summer 2016 initial schedule has been released and not a bad offering from MAN:


https://www.facebook.com/notes/thoma...52585942410213
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 16:05
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Flight from New York to Paris stranded in Manchester for SEVEN HOURS - and passengers couldn't even get off plane - Manchester Evening News

So, another KLM situation? Did MAG not learn that bad publicity is....wait for it...bad publicity?

Was it the pilot's fault, handlers fault, Air France's fault or the airport's fault? For certain these unfortunate passengers will now have strong feelings about (1) flying Air France and (2) Manchester!!! They've probably forgot about the 4 hour wait for de-icer in JFK!

What harm dipping into the multi-million profit and feeding 500 passengers? A tenner a head?

MAG could have been a saviour and ended up part of the problem, again.

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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 16:10
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Actuallt 99% of the frustration has been vented at Air France only. Not heard any news of passengers blaming MAN, even Air France were supposedly thankful to MAN for their patience......
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 17:03
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Jet2 have updated their schedule as now no A330 ops. All of the original A330 destinations apart from Bodrum have an increased schedule, some like Palma have 3 flights on certain days. Most have an extra flight on the same day operating as a 757-200 (Privilege summer lease) and 737-800 within an hour of each other.
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 19:33
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are the new Iraqi routes for real ?
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 19:45
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Oh Yes! Those 'contractor' [ex-military] types will pay big money to get out to these places. Lots of strategic oil installations and personnel to be protected (£1000+ per day jobs). And there are ethnic Kurds in the NW who will appreciate links back to the homeland. The flights operate via Vienna, so presumably some of the seats can be sold from there as well.

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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 19:48
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yep they are real.
The flight used to operate via sweden at one point with another airline
who I can`t remember. it was full of guys working in the security business
who payed a lot of money for the privlage and of course a lot of Iraqi Kurds live in the Manchester area and that is where the flights are going

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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 19:52
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That previous carrier was Hermes (Air Mediterrannee).
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Cheers Shed
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Old 24th Feb 2015, 08:48
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The flights operate via Vienna, so presumably some of the seats can be sold from there as well.
I thought that the VIE stop was on the westbound leg only? And that it was just for a refuel and a special security check of passengers? I believe this also happens on the LGW services.
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Old 24th Feb 2015, 09:44
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Thanks for the clarification, Suzeman. Let's hope MAN can make a success of these on a standalone basis.
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Old 24th Feb 2015, 16:30
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For purely personnel reasons, any news on for Virgin getting new routes out of MAN this coming winter, thanks.
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