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I think there are benefits to AC mainline - they would pick up more connecting traffic to North America for a start.
As said, I don't expect anything brand new for 2018 - incremental increases to existing routes would be good. I think the next 2-3 years we will be looking east for new carriers. Perhaps we will see some modest TATL growth, but I expect this will be driven by TCX.
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1 - increased loads factors;
2 - larger aircraft;
3 - increased use of away based aircraft;
4 - increased use of off peak flying.
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The other thing to bear in mind:
Cathay: operating 4 weekly this year till June, 5 weekly June to December then daily. So we've 2 or 3 flights a week more for 11 months which means there's roughly an extra 45,000 seats on offer.
Oman Air: operating from 1st May. So next year, we've 4 months of operations extra so about 13,000 more seats on offer
Those 2 routes alone could contribute up to 0.2% of MAN's growth next year without even thinking of them having higher loads on the same frequencies operated this year.
Factor in all the services operating year-round that are being introduced this year and you're talking up to an extra 11 months of operations.
Cathay: operating 4 weekly this year till June, 5 weekly June to December then daily. So we've 2 or 3 flights a week more for 11 months which means there's roughly an extra 45,000 seats on offer.
Oman Air: operating from 1st May. So next year, we've 4 months of operations extra so about 13,000 more seats on offer
Those 2 routes alone could contribute up to 0.2% of MAN's growth next year without even thinking of them having higher loads on the same frequencies operated this year.
Factor in all the services operating year-round that are being introduced this year and you're talking up to an extra 11 months of operations.
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MAN are reconfiguring stand 55 to accommodate 2 B737-800. That with an AA B767 less, that potentially room for 2 more B737 based for Ryanair. They had a desire to go to 10 this summer, so not unreasonable to think they could have 11 based next year.
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Splitting or 'MARS-ing' Stand 55 will not create another stand as it takes out 56. It's about creating another stand which passengers can walk out to. No net gain but more attractive to Ryanair who prefer not to bus passengers. The loss of one AA 757/767 doesn't really help add based T3 aircraft as generally the overnight based fleet has gone by 0700 when the Atlantic arrivals drop in, and returns after they have gone.
How do think the TP plan for Brussels compares to the Manchester one ? https://www.facebook.com/brusselsair...3783007665325/ train and tram go into the terminal (not miles away) shuttle monorail to car parks and spotters area. Acres of space inside and outside too (much like Munich) . Sure BRU is a capital city, but it handles less pax than MAN.
Our emphasis appears to be a small boy telling us how great the shops will be- or am I being unkind?
Our emphasis appears to be a small boy telling us how great the shops will be- or am I being unkind?
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Brussels like MAG consists of a number of private investors but is this possibly EU money ?
The key difference is BRU is quiet expensive to operate from and in return they have more money. MAN is pretty cheap and they cannot really increase charges without losing traffic.
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Fair comparisons
In making our comparisons with equivalent airports we should consider the constraints MAN is operating within:
>Very limited available land for core development or other revenue generating
>The level of airport charges which the market will bear
>Shareholder expectations for ROCE*, both public and private
>Lack of state funding
>Highly competitive retail environment with the growth in on-line shopping
>No anchor air carrier who's continuing patronage and major stakeholder status can be relied upon. Remember BA?
Most other airport's with MAN's volume of traffic and route network have perhaps 2 or 3 but not all of these constraints. In many senses MAN does not have an equivalent airport, it is pretty unusual and its primary strength is the vast route network and choice of carriers available to a non-capital city and region.
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>Very limited available land for core development or other revenue generating
>The level of airport charges which the market will bear
>Shareholder expectations for ROCE*, both public and private
>Lack of state funding
>Highly competitive retail environment with the growth in on-line shopping
>No anchor air carrier who's continuing patronage and major stakeholder status can be relied upon. Remember BA?
Most other airport's with MAN's volume of traffic and route network have perhaps 2 or 3 but not all of these constraints. In many senses MAN does not have an equivalent airport, it is pretty unusual and its primary strength is the vast route network and choice of carriers available to a non-capital city and region.
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Looks like VS have adjusted SFO/BOS schedules.
SFO - resumes 22 May
BOS - resumes 23 May
What state funding other airports receive than MAN doesn't?
In some respects regulation helps when it comes to capital spend which most major airports are.
SFO - resumes 22 May
BOS - resumes 23 May
>Lack of state funding
In some respects regulation helps when it comes to capital spend which most major airports are.
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Well, MAD, BCN, PMI, AGP all owned by the Spanish government agency AENA who have pumped Billions of Euros in to them. Germany's major airports all state owned, too - local and federal.
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The reality is a lot of these airports are charging 3, 4 or 5 times per passenger than MAN combined with lower costs in terms of operating and construction all help.
You get what you invest in, cut costs now you will get a sub standard infrastructure and it has potential to cost an airport longer term. Note I am not referring to MAN TP as I don't know enough about it but the principal still stands.
While the plans have had some criticism here, if MAG had a full consolation process with carriers to meet all needs and they are happy then I can't really say there plans are bad nor can people here as they are paying the bills.
The tour operator has understandably reduced their commitment , so capacity is reduced in line.
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What it tells you is HU is adjusting seasonally, reducing Europe and North America whilst moving capacity to the Southern Hemisphere summer.
What that tells you is summer yield has bugger all to do with it.