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It seems IT at Thomas Cook jumoed the gun, as LAX/BOS have been taken out of the booking engine, and the extra JFK removed. It goes to show how far MAN has come when a new route to Los Angeles leads to such little discussion. Given the West Coast USA from the regions is considered the 'prestige' route, I would have thought it would have been quite well discussed. Be interesting to see how the route performs.
Bagso,
Instead of moaning here daily that the advertising isn't quite up to scratch, have you ever thought of contacting MAN directly, because, with the best will in the world, your posts on here will make no difference to your complaints.
Bagso,
Instead of moaning here daily that the advertising isn't quite up to scratch, have you ever thought of contacting MAN directly, because, with the best will in the world, your posts on here will make no difference to your complaints.
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3 terminals with capacity for 55 million really?
There are plenty of quiet periods at MAN, just look at T2 on some afternoons, not unusual to see 1 or no aircraft on stand. Also, natural progression to larger aircraft will help.
So, yes, 55 million is possible. Are they at times airlines want to operate? Probably not. Will the terminal experience be comfortable in its current set up? Hell no.
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My goodness hardly a moan , more a gentle observation actually.
Plus it was a transcript of an interview translated to a press release ?
It was NOT an advert ! There is a difference.
Telling the M E N you serve a catchment of 22m is great I'm simply saying it would be good to widen the remit especially to the business community !
I do contact them actually and to be fair they are now very good in responding. I can assure you comments good or somewhat critical even from "armchair supporters are welcome" !
It was more an "up and at 'em", comment encouraging opinion formers who "might" be reading this to launch a similar charm offensive to that being undertaken by LHR and LGW !
For the record i'm delighted with progress in the last 12 -18 months, Air Canada, Saudia, Cathay, but as two other posters have just remarked ....
55M capacity ?
Terminal Developements ?
We are still allowed to pass comment are we not, it's what for me makes this forum so entertaining.
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Hopefully a brighter note can you confirm what's happening re Thomas Cook ?
I was a bit baffled as you said the IT dept have jumped the gun and a few US routes have been removed eg Lax/Bos.
..but you then suggest it will be interesting to see how well it performs. ?
can you clarify ?
My goodness hardly a moan , more a gentle observation actually.
Plus it was a transcript of an interview translated to a press release ?
It was NOT an advert ! There is a difference.
Telling the M E N you serve a catchment of 22m is great I'm simply saying it would be good to widen the remit especially to the business community !
I do contact them actually and to be fair they are now very good in responding. I can assure you comments good or somewhat critical even from "armchair supporters are welcome" !
It was more an "up and at 'em", comment encouraging opinion formers who "might" be reading this to launch a similar charm offensive to that being undertaken by LHR and LGW !
For the record i'm delighted with progress in the last 12 -18 months, Air Canada, Saudia, Cathay, but as two other posters have just remarked ....
55M capacity ?
Terminal Developements ?
We are still allowed to pass comment are we not, it's what for me makes this forum so entertaining.
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Hopefully a brighter note can you confirm what's happening re Thomas Cook ?
I was a bit baffled as you said the IT dept have jumped the gun and a few US routes have been removed eg Lax/Bos.
..but you then suggest it will be interesting to see how well it performs. ?
can you clarify ?
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Bagso,
It may not be daily, but it is a lot.
What Im trying to say, is, what exactly are you hoping to achieve, other than vent frustration? It seems there are many aspects of MAN you are not happy with, but, I just don't see what near daily vents are achieving in terms of solving the issues that are evidently important to you?
Contact MAN, at least they would be able to at least offer an explination as to their actions and maybe you could rest easier?
This may seem like I am making fun of you, but, Im actually being serious, contact MAN, not annonymous posters who are powerless to change things.
It may not be daily, but it is a lot.
What Im trying to say, is, what exactly are you hoping to achieve, other than vent frustration? It seems there are many aspects of MAN you are not happy with, but, I just don't see what near daily vents are achieving in terms of solving the issues that are evidently important to you?
Contact MAN, at least they would be able to at least offer an explination as to their actions and maybe you could rest easier?
This may seem like I am making fun of you, but, Im actually being serious, contact MAN, not annonymous posters who are powerless to change things.
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Expansion at MAN
How long till MAG announce expansion at MAN seen as they have recently announced development/ expansion at Standsted ? Or will this have decided the likely hood of any recent announcement ?
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Could you clarify your post above please?
First you say that LAX and BOS have been taken OUT of the booking engine.
Then you comment that a new route to LAX is not getting the discussion you think it merits.
The two things seem incompatible.
It's either happening or it's not.
Taking a destination out of the booking engine implies it's not.
If it's not, then not much point discussing really.
Could you clarify your post above please?
First you say that LAX and BOS have been taken OUT of the booking engine.
Then you comment that a new route to LAX is not getting the discussion you think it merits.
The two things seem incompatible.
It's either happening or it's not.
Taking a destination out of the booking engine implies it's not.
If it's not, then not much point discussing really.
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one that found the post re Thomas Cook incoherent!
On the subject of MAN terminal developments it's a case of watch this space. A huge amount of work is being done on identifying the right option, and I'm confident that when the outcome is announced it will have been worth the wait.
On the subject of MAN terminal developments it's a case of watch this space. A huge amount of work is being done on identifying the right option, and I'm confident that when the outcome is announced it will have been worth the wait.
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Would you care to speculate when the option appraisal will be complete and a 'preferred solution' can be made public?
I remain highly skeptical that MAN will have the balls to do the right thing here and do a comprehensive redevelopment of T1 and T3.
I suspect we will see a 'revised masterplan' or some such aspirational wishwash which will 'be implemented over the next 20 years'.
I doubt they have the money for one thing as a T1/3 will no doubt be the thick end of £1bn or so.
I hope to be proved wrong.
Would you care to speculate when the option appraisal will be complete and a 'preferred solution' can be made public?
I remain highly skeptical that MAN will have the balls to do the right thing here and do a comprehensive redevelopment of T1 and T3.
I suspect we will see a 'revised masterplan' or some such aspirational wishwash which will 'be implemented over the next 20 years'.
I doubt they have the money for one thing as a T1/3 will no doubt be the thick end of £1bn or so.
I hope to be proved wrong.
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All names taken
I can't comment on timing. But I understand that all of the options involve a very thorough redevelopment of the entire terminal campus. It just takes time to analyse all of the options, work up a business case, and put it to shareholders.
I don't see funding as being a big problem - MAG has very strong cash flow and substantial capacity for new debt.
I think we'll all be pretty satisfied with the result.
I can't comment on timing. But I understand that all of the options involve a very thorough redevelopment of the entire terminal campus. It just takes time to analyse all of the options, work up a business case, and put it to shareholders.
I don't see funding as being a big problem - MAG has very strong cash flow and substantial capacity for new debt.
I think we'll all be pretty satisfied with the result.
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All names,
The LAX and BOS options have only been removed due to IT jumping the gun, as the flights are not due to be announced until May when JFK and MIA start.
In terms of discussion, the news about flights making the booking engine broke 2 days ago, making it to routesonline twitter too, so, surprised it hadnt generated more discussion in the interim.
The LAX and BOS options have only been removed due to IT jumping the gun, as the flights are not due to be announced until May when JFK and MIA start.
In terms of discussion, the news about flights making the booking engine broke 2 days ago, making it to routesonline twitter too, so, surprised it hadnt generated more discussion in the interim.
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Boston and Los Angeles have been on the drop down list for a while now so it seems a bit pointless to remove them now if an announcement is imminent.
I'm assuming Boston will be Providence? Providence were reportedly in negotiation for two new transatlantic services, Condor was confirmed a while back and recently TACV announced a new service to Praia. Would make sense for TCX to operate from the same airport as Condor.
I'm assuming Boston will be Providence? Providence were reportedly in negotiation for two new transatlantic services, Condor was confirmed a while back and recently TACV announced a new service to Praia. Would make sense for TCX to operate from the same airport as Condor.
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Railway station works completed on schedule and train services running as normal from yesterday. Platform works not complete but the trackwork, wiring and signalling is done. Platform will probably be in use around the time of the timetable change in mid May - will we then see an hourly Chester and North Wales service?
Plenty of advance publicity of the works at stations across the North including on the PIDS at stations and on trains as well as in the media.
Every 15 minutes shuttle bus running from Piccadilly station direct to the Airport - at least 4 50 seater coaches available for each departure. Plenty of staff at either end to guide passengers. On train announcements approaching Piccadilly on trains that would normally go on to the Airport informing passengers of the arrangements.
Well handled from my observations and experience. No sign of the chaos predicted by the MEN when the work was announced some months ago
The project is an important part of the Manchester train hub and will enhance capacity across the North and improve the access to the Airport.
Plenty of advance publicity of the works at stations across the North including on the PIDS at stations and on trains as well as in the media.
Every 15 minutes shuttle bus running from Piccadilly station direct to the Airport - at least 4 50 seater coaches available for each departure. Plenty of staff at either end to guide passengers. On train announcements approaching Piccadilly on trains that would normally go on to the Airport informing passengers of the arrangements.
Well handled from my observations and experience. No sign of the chaos predicted by the MEN when the work was announced some months ago
The project is an important part of the Manchester train hub and will enhance capacity across the North and improve the access to the Airport.
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The project is an important part of the Manchester train hub and will enhance capacity across the North and improve the access to the Airport.
Is there now a better connected airport by rail in the UK ?
Please now for some high frequency connections South East (Derby/Notts etc) South, (Stoke/Stafford/Birmingham etc) and South West (Wolverhampton, Shrewsbury etc).
Is there now a better connected airport by rail in the UK ?
Please now for some high frequency connections South East (Derby/Notts etc) South, (Stoke/Stafford/Birmingham etc) and South West (Wolverhampton, Shrewsbury etc).
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will we then see an hourly Chester and North Wales service?
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I used the TPE train to/from Huddersfield during the airport station closure and I was extremely impressed with the arrangements at Piccadilly with the coaches, plenty of staff in the station and at the coach loading, even took the case off you and loaded it in the coach. Same on return at the airport and in both cases waited no longer than 5 minutes for the coach to leave.
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I believe officially the best connected airport in the UK is Gatwick, granted serving a different catchment!
Manchester & Birmingham are not at all far off with quick and frequent connections to their respective main city stations, far better than the links to fortress Heathrow; which excluding the (very expensive) Heathrow Express, are pitiful.
I'm pleased to see growth, though this is a trend not exclusive to Manchester, all major UK airports have experienced growth (some record numbers) this year, this has been increasing over the last few years as people are flying again now we're out of recession. That said, this IS without doubt a great opportunity to exploit it's catchment which is still a very convenient option even for those of us living in Yorkshire.
Manchester & Birmingham are not at all far off with quick and frequent connections to their respective main city stations, far better than the links to fortress Heathrow; which excluding the (very expensive) Heathrow Express, are pitiful.
I'm pleased to see growth, though this is a trend not exclusive to Manchester, all major UK airports have experienced growth (some record numbers) this year, this has been increasing over the last few years as people are flying again now we're out of recession. That said, this IS without doubt a great opportunity to exploit it's catchment which is still a very convenient option even for those of us living in Yorkshire.