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It has to be said that unless there are any last minute changes, the offerings from Norwegian and Vueling this summer look pretty uninspiring considering that rather more was expected from both carriers.
Fortunately, there is decent growth from Ryanair and Easyjet. among the lo-cost airlines.
Not sure how Jet2 stacks up in terms of seats if there is no increase in based a/c, but we do have the A330 (I assume) and two or three new routes as I recall.
And not forgetting those BA flights - are any more routes expected from them?
Fortunately, there is decent growth from Ryanair and Easyjet. among the lo-cost airlines.
Not sure how Jet2 stacks up in terms of seats if there is no increase in based a/c, but we do have the A330 (I assume) and two or three new routes as I recall.
And not forgetting those BA flights - are any more routes expected from them?
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Vueling and Norwegian is slightly disappointing, but look at it this way.
Norwegian Tatl probably isn't quite the right time for MAN. Let's face it, MAN's Tatl programme this summer is probably its biggest ever, so, we need to bed down what we have, with a fair whack of extra capacity coming online. That coupled with the fact the existence of Norwegian long haul seems quite toxic at the moment amongst the industry, as well as the fact they keep chopping and changing their minds, I'd rather we kept TCX and VS as the main carriers to be honest.
Yes, would have been nice to see the novel routes of Stewart and Providence on the departure boards, but having Los Angeles, Miami, San Fransisco and Houston (routes we wouldn't be seeing Norwegian do at MAN for a long time) is much better.
As for Vueling, well, the way their crew issues are causing problems, seems it's not MAN's fault we lost that base for this summer.
Norwegian Tatl probably isn't quite the right time for MAN. Let's face it, MAN's Tatl programme this summer is probably its biggest ever, so, we need to bed down what we have, with a fair whack of extra capacity coming online. That coupled with the fact the existence of Norwegian long haul seems quite toxic at the moment amongst the industry, as well as the fact they keep chopping and changing their minds, I'd rather we kept TCX and VS as the main carriers to be honest.
Yes, would have been nice to see the novel routes of Stewart and Providence on the departure boards, but having Los Angeles, Miami, San Fransisco and Houston (routes we wouldn't be seeing Norwegian do at MAN for a long time) is much better.
As for Vueling, well, the way their crew issues are causing problems, seems it's not MAN's fault we lost that base for this summer.
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Vueling and Norwegian is slightly disappointing, but look at it this way.
Indeed the TATL is in a bit of flux ex MAN right now. TCX and VIR have massively increased capacity. We've seen UA react by dropping IAD, the VIR/DAL partnership needs to settle, and if successful who knows where else VIR could add. NAX/NAI is an unproven concept, operating to these regional US airports could suck up all the low hanging VFR traffic, or it could fall on its' face after a couple of years if people decide it's worth paying a bit more to fly to JFK/BOS, and in the meantime UA, AA May reduce further.
A bit of stability could be a good thing long term
A bit of stability could be a good thing long term
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Norwegian focuses on mid-size US cities for new Atlantic services | Airports & Routes content from ATWOnline
His comments on the effect on bookings of the current situation suggests that we should be grateful to hold on to what we have, rather than dreaming of new routes.
His comments on the effect on bookings of the current situation suggests that we should be grateful to hold on to what we have, rather than dreaming of new routes.
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From CH-Aviation:
PowdAir (Sion) is a virtual carrier looking to offer direct flights from various UK, Dutch, and Belgian airports to Sion located in the heart of Switzerland’s most popular winter sports region, the Valais.
The start-up said in a statement that effective December 17 onwards, it will offer flights from Sion to each of London Southend, Bournemouth, Southampton, Bristol Int'l, Manchester Int'l and Edinburgh in the UK as well as Brussels in Belgium, and Rotterdam in the Netherlands. Operations are on-board two Fokker 100s chartered from Croatia's Trade Air (C3, Zagreb).
Transfers from Sion to the ski resorts of Verbier, Zermatt, Crans-Montana, Zinal-Grimentz, Leukerbad and Anzčre will be available.
PowdAir (Sion) is a virtual carrier looking to offer direct flights from various UK, Dutch, and Belgian airports to Sion located in the heart of Switzerland’s most popular winter sports region, the Valais.
The start-up said in a statement that effective December 17 onwards, it will offer flights from Sion to each of London Southend, Bournemouth, Southampton, Bristol Int'l, Manchester Int'l and Edinburgh in the UK as well as Brussels in Belgium, and Rotterdam in the Netherlands. Operations are on-board two Fokker 100s chartered from Croatia's Trade Air (C3, Zagreb).
Transfers from Sion to the ski resorts of Verbier, Zermatt, Crans-Montana, Zinal-Grimentz, Leukerbad and Anzčre will be available.
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Awful Masterplan Video
This is the future of Manchester Airport - featuring a showcase 'Super Terminal' after a Ł1bn expansion - Manchester Evening News
There is a bit of an overview at the end. The words claustrophobic come to mind when watching it....
There is a bit of an overview at the end. The words claustrophobic come to mind when watching it....
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Very little open space, very very little 'free' seating, rabbit warren like, claustrophobic and confusing. Also to clarify this is a render for MAN and not the Arndale? I know retail now forms the largest source of revenue for airports, but come on, seriously?!?
It's a shame, as the staircase with the 'living wall' gave a glimpse of what they could have done, but instead it's just lost in the mess.
It's a shame, as the staircase with the 'living wall' gave a glimpse of what they could have done, but instead it's just lost in the mess.
Have to agree as well, it does look very underwhelming. Too many shops along both sides of narrow corridors and stuck in corners. And what is this fascination with low ceilings and exposed aircon ducting - revolting !! Reminds me a bit of the old T2 at LHR minus the bright green plastic interior cladding.
Is it better than what is currently there ? Yes, probably, but let's face it that wouldn't be difficult to achieve. Certainly appears to be a long way from the game changer I was expecting after all the marketing hype.
Let's hope the finished product looks better than the graphics.
Is it better than what is currently there ? Yes, probably, but let's face it that wouldn't be difficult to achieve. Certainly appears to be a long way from the game changer I was expecting after all the marketing hype.
Let's hope the finished product looks better than the graphics.
Remember it it is in the existing structure, thought the timescale was 10 years and it will be done in sections so the first park maybe but not all as it has to be a working terminal all the time
If you want claustrophobic come to where I work as council would not allow the roof to be raised when we put a second floor in
If you want claustrophobic come to where I work as council would not allow the roof to be raised when we put a second floor in
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But it's not just in the existing structure is it? it's in an extension that doubles the terminal size!
No excuses for the narrow corridors that are supposed to handle 20m plus passengers a year.
No excuses for the narrow corridors that are supposed to handle 20m plus passengers a year.
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It's not as bad as I'd feared.
The project has gone through several rounds of value engineering such that it is almost unrecognisable from that first proposed in June 2015.
If it goes ahead as this, it will onviously be a missed opportunity but much better than what is there currently.
The project has gone through several rounds of value engineering such that it is almost unrecognisable from that first proposed in June 2015.
If it goes ahead as this, it will onviously be a missed opportunity but much better than what is there currently.
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Agree, looks really crowded very similar to the T1 duty free area.
Looks like this is going to be yet another cobbled together terminal.
There is no WOW factor here, just another shopping precinct.
Looks like this is going to be yet another cobbled together terminal.
There is no WOW factor here, just another shopping precinct.
Agreed zero wow factor.
No free space, not enough seating areas (outside of food outlets). Lots of picnic benches - is it a garden centre?
Given that T2 will stretch to T3 - it's a long way, how do you get from one end to the other in an unobstructed way?
It lacks any relevance to aviation, where are the gate areas ?
Sure retail is important as are food outlets, but let's not lose focus- it's an airport. Great airports have these, but also have spades of open free space, tall ceilings even outdoor garden areas where you can get fresh air.
Underwhelming all round.
No free space, not enough seating areas (outside of food outlets). Lots of picnic benches - is it a garden centre?
Given that T2 will stretch to T3 - it's a long way, how do you get from one end to the other in an unobstructed way?
It lacks any relevance to aviation, where are the gate areas ?
Sure retail is important as are food outlets, but let's not lose focus- it's an airport. Great airports have these, but also have spades of open free space, tall ceilings even outdoor garden areas where you can get fresh air.
Underwhelming all round.
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I seem to be at odds with everyone here but I like it, stacks up well in my opinion with many of the newer airports I have visited. In fact the shopping lay out in many ways reminds me of Hong Kong.
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not enough seating areas (outside of food outlets).
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Without wanting to spark the North/South divide argument, I think they should take a look at T5 and T2 at Heathrow - they are both good examples of how to develop modern airport terminals - in my opinion at least
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With regards to the obvious development of the masterplan itself, I'd now like to see proper plan views of each of the floors in order to better understand the current plan.
Arrivals actually looks alright so that's something.
Although the new bit is brand new, one would presume that from an operational perspective, they have to have the same floor heights as the existing as the proposals span both existing and new.
My main concern is what appears to be a very circuitous route from check-in to gate. unnecessary in my view too.
Arrivals actually looks alright so that's something.
Although the new bit is brand new, one would presume that from an operational perspective, they have to have the same floor heights as the existing as the proposals span both existing and new.
My main concern is what appears to be a very circuitous route from check-in to gate. unnecessary in my view too.