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Old 26th Jul 2016, 10:47
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There are some good comments above. Manchester has the worst percentage use of public transport for any airport with heavy rail except Newcastle(and worse than some without rail links at all). It is entirely within their gift to improve accessibility from the station to the three terminals, be it by regular interconnecting bus or ensuring that all travellators and lifts are operational. It's a will issue rather than a skill issue. Does the TP include any specific comment regarding the improvement in public transport usage?
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 11:02
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It's a will issue rather than a skill issue.
Aviation, retail and car parking revenues are the three (only?) airport income generators. If utopia public transport was achieved then what? More shops?

Whatever is said about public transport targets, it is not in their financial interest to maintain empty car parks.
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 11:18
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Or maybe the issue is that people just don't like using public transport and would rather drive/Taxi to get from point A to point B in the shortest time?

I fit that category, in that it doesn't matter how cheap the rail fare is, I would rather drive and park up at the airport. If I have those feelings, maybe others do too.

It's probably indicative of the public transport and how bad it actually is.

I once priced up a train fare for 4 people from North Wales to Manchester airport. It was actually longer (with a change at Piccadilly) and more expensive than a taxi fare we had been quoted.

Then it seems every time I get on a train there's either no room for luggage or there's a drunken idiot (or plural) ruining it for everyone compared to a relatively easy and civilised drive.

Lastly, who wants to get on a local bus to go on holiday (remembering Manchester is predominantly outbound traffic). If you moan that the walk from the station to T3 with luggage is bad, getting a local bus with said luggage isn't exactly a nice experience either?!

As for the station to T3, I honestly did find it worse at LHR central-T3. Given the station has to serve a central core to access all 3 terminals the station is probably best placed, and as said, there is a regular shuttle bus, I honestly don't know what you expect MAG to do to improve that scenario? Maybe the skylink can be extended to serve T3 once the TP is done given T1 will be redundant, but that's about it?
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 13:42
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Originally Posted by eggc
There is a free bus from right outside the station doors to T3 every few minutes.
That stopped years ago. There is no other way than walk- up down up down up down or chance the surface car parks
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 16:54
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Originally Posted by Crazy Voyager
Ex EU? GOT is in Sweden which is in the EU (Norway isn't, might be that you're thinking of?). GOT is also a small airport so not very good for onward connections unless you were going to places that already have direct flights from MAN (OSL, ARN, HEL, etc).
Sorry, I'm too used to FlyerTalk parlance ex-EU as in starting your trip in the EU. In usage though it really means starting outside of the UK and somewhere inside continental Europe and Scandinavia.

From GOT you are generally flying back to LHR on BA and onwards from there, saving large amounts over starting in the UK for long haul J/F.
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 19:34
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The walk from the station to T3 at Manchester is horrendous with luggage. There is a bus link I believe but I have never seen the bus.
Isn't there a bus that stops at T3, then T1 and then the T1 & T3 Long Stay car park in a circle? You could always get that bus from T3 to T1 and then head to the Skylink if that helps?
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 20:27
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Not sure on the mix and "of course" numbers are not my strong point, but is there a higher number of pax using MAN who are MAN originating passengers ?

That is to say they travel out then travel back!

Are they more inclined to drive ?

At Heathrow by way of example the mix of pax is going to be of foreign origin ie tourists who fly in who have little choice but to rely on public transport!
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 20:46
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The Manchester Airport web-site says the following about transfers between Terminal 3 and the Station:-

"Our integrated public transport hub, The Station, is a state-of-the-art interchange for rail, tram and bus services across the North-West and beyond. Terminal 3 is a short walk to the Station."

No mention of a bus transfer at all on the web-site.
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 21:13
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If has stopped it has stopped fairly recently as I used it last summer and TP express says on the subject "Terminal 3: approximately a 7 minute walk. A frequent shuttle bus operates from outside the train station and outside the arrivals hall of Terminal 3."

Personally I feel there a few airports as well connected as MAN in the UK, it's public transport connections are excellent. You can lay on all the public transport you want, but folk going on holiday with numerous cases in tow will never find the tram, train or bus as easy as car or taxi.

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Old 27th Jul 2016, 00:32
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Are you sure there is a bus from T3 to the station? My Vueling flight arrived 40 mins late today - as expected but don't let me start on about that - but there was no indication of a bus. So I walked, and just missed the train. Fortunately, because of TPE First Airport Advance ticket, I didn't have to pay to use the next train.
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 10:54
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@manairport pushing out a few tweets this am that lead to more questions.....

Manchester Airport ‏@manairport
From 7.9.16 Saudia Airlines will fly 5 times a week to Jeddah

Manchester Airport ‏@manairport
Philadelphia is just a #Dreamliner away. Fly daily non-stop with @AmericanAir ! Book now: http://aa.com

SV 5 times a week. Did we know that?
AA787 to PHL. That's not the plan.....?
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:01
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SV 5 times a week. Did we know that?
Yes the 5th Saudia service was posted by LAX a few months ago. Wednesdays is the extra day, and starts September IIRC

AA787 to PHL. That's not the plan.....?
Hadn't heard that one before. The A330 PHL service has been consistently reliable and punctual, unlike the ORD and JFK services which have been the opposite - whatever aircraft type AA throws at them...
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:03
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Saudi yes that is know but not American, having said that American are getting rid of the A333s so maybe it could be true as the A332s might be re allocated

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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:03
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I'm not aware of the PHL route going B787? That may be a typo.

The Saudia news was covered way way back, probably months ago now.

It seems like it's only in the past 2-3 weeks the MAN Twitter account poster has woken up again!
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:19
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Thanks. I probably missed the SV stuff while scrolling thru the power supply for HS2 debate.

Yes, I guess "Dreamliner" is a fairly generic description to a marketing type.

The MAN Twitter account is active but not sure about this...

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New routes! Air France to San Jose and KLM to Colombo
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:30
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Yeah, those 2 routes aren't exactly MAN news haha.

That said, they do seem to be getting better at announcing the new routes, even if it is 2-3 days behind the curve. At least there will be the awareness, and that's what counts (it was funny that one person on Twitter asked if there were any flights to Amsterdam from Manchester! Just the 15 flights or so a day love!).
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:38
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Possibly not the best timing by MAG for an announcement about Air France routes when they're on strike again. This time its the flight attendants, and they're out for a week !!
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 12:02
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Whilst we're talking about SV, they're doing very well recently with a lot of connecting pax. Good to see
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 12:06
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Connecting in JED or in MAN, or both?
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 12:21
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36901644

Not Manchester news as such BUT just an observation.

£344m to expand London City.

A modest new terminal and 7...yes 7 new stands. Creating a storm of media interest for the "national good".

It does make the MAN £1bn expansion and the mega increase in capacity appear excellent value for money by comparison ...
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