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Old 4th Jul 2016, 21:30
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Originally Posted by MAN2NYC View Post
With VS adding around 41,230 seats to BOS & SFO next year, as well as racking JFK up around 6,150, it's highly doubtful that we'll see DTW next year. That's just too much capacity, far too soon. I expect we'll see DTW on our departure boards in 2018.
I think the idea was that it would be a seasonal DL route when VS take over JFK from DL.
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Old 4th Jul 2016, 22:08
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Tram usage

The poor take-up of the airport Metrolink doesn't surprise me. I am a daily commuter to the airport on the heavy rail line which offers fast and frequent service from the city centre. I see the trams coming and going from the adjacent platforms at the airport and there is at best a handful of passengers on each. No wonder:

The journey by tram to the city centre is tortuous and slow. It will never be popular for this trip even when the 2CC work is complete because the journey is so slow and has no luggage space. To be fair it was really intended to link up more local points rather than compete with the train. But even for Wythenshawe residents the journey is convoluted and in competition with the No.43 bus which is on a 10-minute frequency much of the day and has more convenient pick up points for many.

I would use the Metrolink more often (I live close to the East Didsbury line) if I was allowed to use it with my 1100 p.a. System One Countycard, which gives me all buses and trains in Gt. Manchester but not Metrolink!!!

The Airport contributed 50M towards the airport Metrolink line, a substantial sum. There will be an extension to the expanded Terminal Two and (if it gets built) HS2. Airport City may generate more traffic but with arguably better value buses locally, and much faster heavy rail options to the city, I'm not sure how good a future it has.
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Old 4th Jul 2016, 22:21
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It probably has a future running a frequent loop route from:

HS2 Station
Terminal 2
Terminal 1
Current station
AirportCity

And vice versa...
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Old 4th Jul 2016, 22:59
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One thing to bear in mind on the Metrolink question is that the trams serve communities all along the route - customers joining or leaving the service at the Airport itself do not determine the overall economics of the operation. Stops such as Wythenshawe Town Centre supply a much higher proportion of passenger journeys than the airport stop for example, but all contribute to the viability of the operation as a whole.
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 08:37
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I would use the Metrolink more often (I live close to the East Didsbury line) if I was allowed to use it with my 1100 p.a. System One Countycard, which gives me all buses and trains in Gt. Manchester but not Metrolink!!!
At the risk of turning this into a public transport forum, we have the same daft situation in Nottingham where you can't have one monthly, or contactless payment card for all operators (tram, rail and bus), because of the daft competition rules that HMG (not Europe) has made. It makes a total nonsense of an "integrated Transport System", which is in part why our roads are so congested.
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 09:32
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Roverman: Interim Mayor of Manchester Tony Lloyd yesterday announced a 12-week public consultation on GM transport strategy to 2040. Subjects covered include ticketing issues. You can fill in the survey at tfgm.com/2040. I will also be filling in the survey to make a couple of suggestions on the ticketing topic.
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 20:37
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Is this the norm at MAN these days? With the onset of school holidays can passengers expect this to be the norm on arrival?

Holiday-maker shares chaotic scenes of baggage pile-ups and snaking queues inside UK airport - Mirror Online
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 20:41
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I used carousel 6 in t1 and can confirm baggage became blocked up when coming onto the carousel (1st July 7:40pm), Very poor system
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 21:00
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VS Strategy at MAN

Some information from Craig Kreeger, CEO of Virgin Atlantic. Taken from a TiEVA event in Manchester today.

Key point is confirmation that they now view MAN as "hub" and not an "outstation". Also clear objective to support businesses (which I think means more of a balance between leisure and business routes moving forwards).

Subject to economic conditions, I think we can expect to see further growth and new routes over the next few years.
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Old 5th Jul 2016, 21:06
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Carousel

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I used carousel 6 in t1 and can confirm baggage became blocked up when coming onto the carousel (1st July 7:40pm), Very poor system
It happens, the trick is to ensure that staff are on hand to spot the issue and resolve it quickly. Reading between the lines, it appears that the airport is no longer responsible for the smooth running of its own baggage carousels. Maybe that's an outsourcing too far.
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 09:06
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Laing O,Rourke have been named as preferred bidder on T2 development beating off Chinese and more home grown rivals so may see some action starting soon.


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Old 6th Jul 2016, 10:02
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Some information from Craig Kreeger, CEO of Virgin Atlantic. Taken from a TiEVA event in Manchester today.

Key point is confirmation that they now view MAN as "hub" and not an "outstation". Also clear objective to support businesses (which I think means more of a balance between leisure and business routes moving forwards).

Subject to economic conditions, I think we can expect to see further growth and new routes over the next few years.
Great news.

Just having a lookaround the VS website and noticed they have DTW in Destination map | Virgin Atlantic

Detroit (DTW) - London Heathrow (LHR)
London Heathrow (LHR) - Detroit (DTW)
Detroit (DTW) - Manchester (MAN)
Manchester (MAN) - Detroit (DTW)
but SFO, BOS and JFK not showing correctly. So, website info not reliable but DTW was on someone's mind......
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 15:03
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That's because VS operated LHR to DTW over the winter period in substitution for Delta hence why it's on their destination map.
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 15:40
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Flybe MAN-TLS Daily

I see Flybe have just announced daily flights to Toulouse from October. Good to see them expanding again on a firmer footing. With RTD and LUX recently added this is very encouraging.
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 06:42
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That Virgin news also relates a new "Flagship Shop" opening in the Trafford Centre.....

See MEN Business News
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 07:19
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Originally Posted by DomyDom View Post
I see Flybe have just announced daily flights to Toulouse from October. Good to see them expanding again on a firmer footing. With RTD and LUX recently added this is very encouraging.
Not forgetting MAN-LYS that was announced some time ago. I'm really pleased how Flybe have grown at MAN recently and let's hope this continues.
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 13:19
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Arrived back at T2 at 3am this morning (shocking OTP from Monarch again, so don`t ask) but we were one of the first into the passport hall..Now the guys from MAG, must be PPRuNe readers because he ran round and removed many of the elastic barriers and made the journey to the desks much shorter. Now get this, even at that time every Border Force position was staffed and the electronic gates were up and running.

I had a laugh with the guy on passports about so many staff at that time and he said something must have gone wrong with the rosters!!..we all had a laugh and banter and were dealt with quickly..so no probs in or out at T2..
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 15:27
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Terminal 2 been fine for me for the last few months, i'll see what it's like again on the 17th when I return from GIB.

Arrived back at T2 at 3am this morning (shocking OTP from Monarch again
FUE flight by any chance?
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 20:29
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Certainly was, both ways..ok stuff happens but Monarch did not help at all.
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Old 8th Jul 2016, 08:58
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Now the guys from MAG, must be PPRuNe readers because he ran round and removed many of the elastic barriers and made the journey to the desks much shorter. Now get this, even at that time every Border Force position was staffed and the electronic gates were up and running.
Another late evening arrival in to T1 last night and yes, maybe comments here do get read by those that can do something about it. The young Asian guy at the Border Control entrance was a model of civility and welcome. He somehow didn't feel the need for shouting his head off at people arriving. Created a calm and relaxed environment.
All went very well. Was outside the terminal 10 mins after walking off the plane. Nice job.
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