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Volda-Dnepr's UK subsidiary set to launch next month - ch-aviation.com
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Promote airports outside London, says Manchester and Stansted owner | The Times
Good to see Manchester get some copy from The Times !
Presume they were "in town" and even attended a MAG presentation.
Not sure who decides, who says what when it comes to MAG and the media but getting some noise in "The Thunderer" should be richly applauded!
Good to see Manchester get some copy from The Times !
Presume they were "in town" and even attended a MAG presentation.
Not sure who decides, who says what when it comes to MAG and the media but getting some noise in "The Thunderer" should be richly applauded!
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MAG forgot to add, ps not until 2025 at the earliest.
All well and good promoting them but can MAG meet requirements....no unless you want to fly at times when most passengers don't.
All well and good promoting them but can MAG meet requirements....no unless you want to fly at times when most passengers don't.
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Perhaps but remember airlines will be prepared to wait for LHR capacity, they wont wait for MAN to produce a terminal which will likely be at full capacity when its completed.
2 -3 years (construction) is lots of time and while it would be a complete disaster for passengers/airlines, it would be better long term. Perhaps if MAN cut some parking spaces and erected a tenp terminal or boarding gate area it would do the job. If you were over in DUB when they were constructing piers it worked perfectly well.
10 years is a complete joke.
Perhaps but remember airlines will be prepared to wait for LHR capacity, they wont wait for MAN to produce a terminal which will likely be at full capacity when its completed.
2 -3 years (construction) is lots of time and while it would be a complete disaster for passengers/airlines, it would be better long term. Perhaps if MAN cut some parking spaces and erected a tenp terminal or boarding gate area it would do the job. If you were over in DUB when they were constructing piers it worked perfectly well.
10 years is a complete joke.
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Reference to the delays on long holds at Manchester on 5th October, the early morning easyJet service from Belfast to Manchester had to divert to Liverpool because of the inbound delays to Manchester. I am sure easyJet do not consider that to be normal.
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I notice a few of our Saudia flights lately have been operating from Medinah, including today's flight.
Obviously due to Hajj, but thought it was interesting none the less given I don't think we have had scheduled flights there in the past.
Obviously due to Hajj, but thought it was interesting none the less given I don't think we have had scheduled flights there in the past.
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10 years is a complete joke.
If you feel that you could organise the job better - you are clearly an expert to pass such a judgment - please contact MAG with your recommendations.
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Perhaps if MAN cut some parking spaces
No diversion NOTAM's a plenty this winter, which will lead to much debate again.
Removing parking capacity is a no go. Creating more would be the ideal.
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Just had a look at NOTAMs and this doesn't bode well. Been in place since August.
A3186/15 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5321N00217W005
A) EGCC B) 1508171100 C) 1510241000
E) LONG HAUL FLIGHTS ARRIVING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE MAY BE REQUIRED TO
GROUND HOLD UNTIL A PARKING STAND IS AVAILABLE.
A3186/15 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5321N00217W005
A) EGCC B) 1508171100 C) 1510241000
E) LONG HAUL FLIGHTS ARRIVING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE MAY BE REQUIRED TO
GROUND HOLD UNTIL A PARKING STAND IS AVAILABLE.
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Overnight parking at MAN is at a critical stage and only improves slowly as the first waves depart.
When I look out over the aprons though things could be improved with a little imagination, ala champions league final day, where nose to tail parking was employed to better utilise space. Perfect for the likes of Jet2, who's a/c do not move for considerable periods. Maybe a taxiway, away from known bottle necks could also be used, but there seems little will to be inventive even in the face of an obvious problem.
When I look out over the aprons though things could be improved with a little imagination, ala champions league final day, where nose to tail parking was employed to better utilise space. Perfect for the likes of Jet2, who's a/c do not move for considerable periods. Maybe a taxiway, away from known bottle necks could also be used, but there seems little will to be inventive even in the face of an obvious problem.
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"MAN's terminal rebuild will be completed section by section each of which will open in turn upon completion. Ten years is only the projected timescale from start of the first phase to completion of the final phase of the project. Given the scale of the project, the planning required and the need for the airport to remain fully operational throughout, why is this timescale 'a complete joke?'
1) Started 10 years too late.
2) Growth will be restricted.
3) Start digging when airport hits max capacity
4) Forget based aircraft.
"If you feel that you could organise the job better - you are clearly an expert to pass such a judgment - please contact MAG with your recommendations."
Sadly, the clock can not be set back. The boat sailed and they missed it.
1) Started 10 years too late.
2) Growth will be restricted.
3) Start digging when airport hits max capacity
4) Forget based aircraft.
"If you feel that you could organise the job better - you are clearly an expert to pass such a judgment - please contact MAG with your recommendations."
Sadly, the clock can not be set back. The boat sailed and they missed it.
Missed the boat? I don`t believe so, yes they could have done it
when it was less busy 2008/12 but the money wasn`t there and
at the time the increase in traffic wasn`t confirmed that it was going to happen.Heathrow has had 3 terminals built since they were so
called full and T2 has shown how it can be done in stages.
when it was less busy 2008/12 but the money wasn`t there and
at the time the increase in traffic wasn`t confirmed that it was going to happen.Heathrow has had 3 terminals built since they were so
called full and T2 has shown how it can be done in stages.
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BLDBOS - That ten year number relates to the projected timescale from the start of construction through to completion of the terminals transformation project. That was the issue under discussion in my reply to an earlier post.
Now, you may feel that terminal redevelopment should have started ten years earlier, but that is a different argument altogether. You can't just quote my answer and pretend that it was posted in response to an entirely different question.
Meanwhile, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Who would have forecast the return of $45 oil and the lift it has given to airline expansion? Were you posting that forecast ahead of time? Did you forecast the fundamental change of strategy at carriers such as EZY and RYR which has driven a significant proportion of growth at MAN in recent times? Did you post to advise MAN to anticipate the relocation of aircraft from other bases which had previously appeared untouchable? And of course, back in Autumn 2008 when the banking crisis hit and the credit markets seized up ... what were you posting then? If MAN had been committed to a crippled major investment back then, you'd no doubt have posted a barbed 'benefit of hindsight' comment in the manner of the one above.
We can all be experts on what should have been done after history has happened!
Now, allow me to speculate on the matter of the next ten years rather than posturing disapprovingly about the past with hindsight on my side. It is human nature to project current conditions far into the future when planning ahead. If growth is present, our instinctive inclination is to project that rate of growth forward indefinitely. But experts know that real life isn't like that. Markets ebb and flow. My own projection is that we will face another financial crisis at some point over the next ten years (probably much sooner) and it will probably emerge from the overheated credit markets. There is way too much debt out there, massive amounts of capital have been misallocated during the era of low interest rates and QE. Many corporate bonds will default going forward and that will cause contagion throughout the global economy. Airline growth will suffer in line with other sectors of the economy, and major airports will endure another period of contraction before growth can restart from a lower base post-recession. In the meantime, some familiar names will disappear as we saw in the past with likes of Swissair, Sabena and XL. And Transaero just days ago.
Meanwhile, oil prices will not stay low indefinitely. Production will fall to meet demand as higher-cost producers are driven out of the market. That clearout process has already begun, though there will be a time-lag before it filters through to end-user pricing. The airlines are flying in sunshine for now.
If I am right - and of course I may be quite wrong (hope so) - then MAG's plan to build in modules and not overstretch themselves based on a best-case scenario will look like genius. The next planned module can be paused if necessary until economic conditions recover. And MAG will be less exposed to the risk which comes with an enormous debt-financed project through a challenging period of declining traffic.
MAG cannot plan for a 'Goldilocks scenario' alone as you would have them do. But if that does come to pass, they'll do fine. Just keep building full-speed-ahead.
Now, you may feel that terminal redevelopment should have started ten years earlier, but that is a different argument altogether. You can't just quote my answer and pretend that it was posted in response to an entirely different question.
Meanwhile, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Who would have forecast the return of $45 oil and the lift it has given to airline expansion? Were you posting that forecast ahead of time? Did you forecast the fundamental change of strategy at carriers such as EZY and RYR which has driven a significant proportion of growth at MAN in recent times? Did you post to advise MAN to anticipate the relocation of aircraft from other bases which had previously appeared untouchable? And of course, back in Autumn 2008 when the banking crisis hit and the credit markets seized up ... what were you posting then? If MAN had been committed to a crippled major investment back then, you'd no doubt have posted a barbed 'benefit of hindsight' comment in the manner of the one above.
We can all be experts on what should have been done after history has happened!
Now, allow me to speculate on the matter of the next ten years rather than posturing disapprovingly about the past with hindsight on my side. It is human nature to project current conditions far into the future when planning ahead. If growth is present, our instinctive inclination is to project that rate of growth forward indefinitely. But experts know that real life isn't like that. Markets ebb and flow. My own projection is that we will face another financial crisis at some point over the next ten years (probably much sooner) and it will probably emerge from the overheated credit markets. There is way too much debt out there, massive amounts of capital have been misallocated during the era of low interest rates and QE. Many corporate bonds will default going forward and that will cause contagion throughout the global economy. Airline growth will suffer in line with other sectors of the economy, and major airports will endure another period of contraction before growth can restart from a lower base post-recession. In the meantime, some familiar names will disappear as we saw in the past with likes of Swissair, Sabena and XL. And Transaero just days ago.
Meanwhile, oil prices will not stay low indefinitely. Production will fall to meet demand as higher-cost producers are driven out of the market. That clearout process has already begun, though there will be a time-lag before it filters through to end-user pricing. The airlines are flying in sunshine for now.
If I am right - and of course I may be quite wrong (hope so) - then MAG's plan to build in modules and not overstretch themselves based on a best-case scenario will look like genius. The next planned module can be paused if necessary until economic conditions recover. And MAG will be less exposed to the risk which comes with an enormous debt-financed project through a challenging period of declining traffic.
MAG cannot plan for a 'Goldilocks scenario' alone as you would have them do. But if that does come to pass, they'll do fine. Just keep building full-speed-ahead.
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MAG cannot plan for a 'Goldilocks scenario' alone as you would have them do. But if that does come to pass, they'll do fine. Just keep building full-speed-ahead.
Long haul having to wait for gates? Appalling. Great news for Dublin.