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Old 27th Aug 2015, 09:17
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Dnata were hiring Chinese/Mandarin speaking CSA's not too long ago
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 09:29
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AT Notts

Are there any signs in European languages, e.g. French or Spanish
Don't know, but there's certainly a lot of Polish road signs around Cheshire and North Wales - allegedly to stop all the truck drivers from getting lost
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 09:33
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I thought places like the Trafford centre had produced mandarin language guides and maps to aid the tourists?
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 11:38
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Without swaying to off topic,The Trafford Centre and indeed many shops in Manchester are well ahead of the game in terms of being "Chinese Friendly" in terms of guides, payment facilities etc.

It was just an observation as to whether the same experience was available to flights at the source of entry Eg MAN and CX?

AND Yes they were training up customer service hosts I wondered if these were visible given the volumes coming in !
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 11:51
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Egyptair

Egyptair not bookable after 24 October. Is this a summer only route now ? Or are we back to the previous issue of flights not going on sale until they have Govt approval ?
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 12:05
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It's the bilateral issue again. Flights will go back on sale in Sept

I wonder why they can't get this issue sorted, surely it can't be good for bookings to have to keep taking flights off sale?!
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 18:15
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Vueling

Questions for those in the know: as an existing operator out of T3 Vueling operate 'middle of the day services' out of peak so as to avoid the T3 peak congestion. This seems to work.

If they are moving to 2 based aircraft as (I think LAX) reported here, doesn't this inevitably mean they'll be joining the T3 rugby scrum in the early morning? Where will they fit the 2 extra based A320s and their passengers in a terminal that is already full (or over-full) at peak?
Will T3 become even more unpleasant for the poor punter than it already is?
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 19:11
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The base has been deffered to 2017 now.

Reason being that vueling have had some really bad OTP issues this summer, and therefore will not open any new bases in 2016 to try and recover some reputation, by bolstering the current bases. This is not a slight on MAN, it's a network wide issue, and that's where the priority lies at the moment.

In terms of MAN, they have said new routes from current bases will still happen, notably Palma, Ibiza, Florence, Seville and Alicante, and currently Barcelona in August 2016 will see a daily schedule with July being 6 weekly (already bookable on their website).

Rome FCO was also to be a new route, but, Rome has its own issue to deal with at the moment. All new routes will be 2-3 weekly at most. Barcelona may still get its 10 weekly flights, as further adjustments are due.

The new routes should be available to book from about January, with an April/may start.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 08:46
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Thanks LAX

So MAN gets the new routes and upgrades without the hassle of based aircraft? That presumably means the new and existing services would operate in the off peak?
If so I would say that's very good news.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 10:27
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I believe PMI/ALC/IBZ will be about 1130-1230, FLR about 1430-1530 and SVQ about 1500-1600 IIRC.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 16:17
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Hi LAX, do you know if the routes you've mentioned to be transferred to based aircraft when they open the base?
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 16:48
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No idea tattnbenj, given just yesterday they said no new bases in 2016 and now news of a CDG base in April 2016, I have no idea what the story is now?!?!
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 16:56
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To be fair if you want to operate out of CDG, you are unlikely going to get many opportunities to get such slots for a base so they wouldn't be in a position to turn them down but could realistically come to MAN or most other European airports whenever they want.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 18:31
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Ok thank you
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Old 29th Aug 2015, 11:40
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MAN has a new long term resident as the Transaero/Kabo B747-400 has been impounded and grounded by CAA. The previous times this has happened at MAN, the aircraft have been here a while.
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Old 29th Aug 2015, 13:12
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hope they payed for the respay
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Old 30th Aug 2015, 11:04
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I wonder if we'll see easyJet or Ryanair making a move before Vueling announces Manchester expansion.

– Will O'Leary allow Wash to enter one of its main territories through low-cost flights to sun spot destinations?

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Does the intransigence re Egyptair lie with our very own DFT ?

I have no idea but not seeing beyond Heathrow in every way shape or form "may" be a part of the problem ?

Maybe a pointer here...


Department for Transport civil servants "not neutral" about airport expansion, says campaign group (From Your Local Guardian)
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 09:53
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I have no idea
For once I agree with you

Egypt has bled traffic massively as the "revolution" and "counter revolution" slug it out and ISIS continue to fight in the region. Or maybe it's a London conspiracy. Or not.

HACAN are the last people to be neutral, having met them, they are NIMBYs to the max. I imagine MAN has an equivalent Tom Good.
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 12:14
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Oh come now Skip once again somewhat mischievously attempting, but failing, to take us somewhat off-piste.

BUT If you honestly think that the appointment of a Heathrow spin doctor to the civil service isn't going to influence minister's then you are more naive than I ever imagined.

I doubt of course that it is a "Heathrow conspiracy " but if the problem does lie in Whitehall red tape I suspect it is not an issue that would blight the aforementioned Heathrow.

....who also btw, have flights to the same region !

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