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Old 12th Apr 2016, 08:04
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Apart from being to build a new terminal should airlines emerge and add fire cover etc and all other essential services, the biggest challenge will be getting airlines to serve the airport.

This is on the backdrop of needing to operate on a shorter day, ie like Knock Airport, who do not have a based airline resulting in a shorter day hence reduced /realistic operating costs. Ryanair would bet likely to be the only airline so could offer services on a non base arrangement, serving the airport from bases abroad. Though that would be hard won.
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Old 12th Apr 2016, 18:33
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The would be more chance of outrightly winning the Lottery three times in a row than seeing the return of Ryanair at BLK.


Sad to say, but the odds are now stacked so high against our airfield that I can't see a future in the short term to repair the devastating blow which the wonderful Balfour Beatty have dealt us.


Thank you, Balfour Beatty, for ruining our Airfield.


Thanks a million times over.


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Old 13th Apr 2016, 11:39
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There is going to be no new operator that will sign up on a promise of a new terminal. Blackpool had a small terminal and BB destroyed it, it also had the equipment to run a passenger operation and sold the lot.
You are simply wrong with respect.

I can't see jets returning to BLK, for the simple reason there would be no confidence in BB.

Having said that - An airline would sign up on teh understanding a terminal and equipment needed would be available in X time.

Reason I say that is, if X operator at BLK failed to deliver, then so simpel the airline would pull out.

As for your comments on building on the lng runway, can you link to show that will happen?
The best that can be hoped for are a couple of portocabins bolted together for a small IOM operation and that is it
Can you link to that? IOM flights are managing quite well without your portocabins.

Also with the introduction of the living wage, wage costs would be no doubt higher than before.
Yes and that will also happen at SEN and other small airports - and dare I say. Luton staff will be paid enough to eat also.

Sad to say, but the odds are now stacked so high against our airfield that I can't see a future in the short term to repair the devastating blow which the wonderful Balfour Beatty have dealt us.
Sangrown. Not just BB though is it. The penny pinching Jet2 also had a hand in wrecking the airport - The council also are a disgrace. What happened to the rain day money?

Oh and who signed the contracts with FR and LS that made the airport run at a loss?

LTNman is wrong, BLK could have made money with the loads they had, had they been paid proper by FR and LS.

LTMman is also wrong, HE ASSUMES that BLK could never grow, well before they closed BLK were getting new routes every year. That is the irony and showed BB were losing money. Who's fault, a collection of idiots since 2005

Yes it's the end while BB are in control.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 12:36
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Why do all small airports think Ryanair is their salvation?

Biggin Hill exists on GA, Gloucester has a little commercial traffic but lots of GA.
Is there any reason why Blackpool can not operate as a GA airfield along the lines of Gloucester? Why does Blackpool need to try and be yet another regional airport looking for airlines that don't want anywhere new?
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 17:39
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100% agree , the airport can survive with a mix of Offshore , Biz Jet and GA traffic as long as it is properly run , and supported by the operating company.


More likely that the small operator e.g. Citywing continue to fit the passenger model for Blackpool with a small selection of routes , and a portfolio that doesn't require major Airport Terminal infrastructure to operate.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 19:38
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LTNman is wrong, BLK could have made money with the loads they had, had they been paid proper by FR and LS.
Ernest Lanc's I respect all of your views but I suspect the likes of Ryanair and LS would and will not pay the fees that would be required to turn things around.

I travelled up on the FR service from Stansted and the load was quite good but they still pulled out of Blackpool when they were paying next to nothing. Would they really come back and pay more? Somehow I don't think so.

The terminal is gone, the equipment is gone and the staff are gone. That's it folks, it is all over, as it would have been cheaper to keep an already small terminal open rather than knock it down and then start again with yet another terminal, apron, fire station. etc etc etc. The best that can be hoped for is GA and daily IOM services by a small carrier.

I wish I could share Ernest Lanc's views but I see no light at the end of the tunnel, which is depressing to say the least as someone who first flew out of Blackpool some 40 years ago.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 19:42
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I tend to agree with the last two comments. We had a very similar situation here in the Midlands with Coventry trying to be bigger and better than was actually required. Blackpool should stick to the simple things and do them really well. Leave anything bigger than a BBJ to Liverpool or Manchester.
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Old 18th Apr 2016, 21:03
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BLK would be better off with charter airlines operating from the airfield, for examples Thomson Airways.

Like Thomson operate at HUY during the winter with their once weekly Tenerife service, a W pattern.

Then other airlines like FR or EZY would look at BLK and decide to give it a go after the airfield shows its successfulness with charter they can then look at scheduled airline services.
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Old 20th Apr 2016, 13:18
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Blackpool Airport Fly - In 24th April 2016

Blackpool Airport has re-opened to General Aviation. City Wings are currently operating daily services to/from the Isle of Mann and Belfast.
This Sunday the Lytham St Annes Spitfire Visitor Centre is hosting a Fly-In with a 20% discount on Landing Fee's being offered to all visiting aircraft.
There are facilities within the Hangar 8 cafe for food and drink and an opportunity to have your aircrafts phootgraph taken with the Mark IX Spitfire!
Why not plot a course for Blackpool Airport this Sunday.
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Old 12th May 2016, 10:16
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I wish I could share Ernest Lanc's views but I see no light at the end of the tunnel, which is depressing to say the least as someone who first flew out of Blackpool some 40 years ago.
My VIEWS are the same LNTman , that BLK are finished and I doubt will ever open to jets other than the private kind.

My point was BLK had good load factors, I never set foot on a half empty plane.

My other point was the airport was expanding in routes, and had the airlined paid what they should, BLK along with the ADF would probably have survived.

That is where I differer from you.

In 2007 I think over 700,000 flew from Blackpool as rising, that was or should have been enough to let BLK make a go of it on the sunshine routes.

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Old 15th May 2016, 08:59
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Great Service

Flew in to Blackpool yesterday and although the terminal has gone, I have to say, what a friendly helpful bunch they are there. I emailed for PPR the night before at 10pm and had a reply at 5:30am the next morning confirming my arrival!! They advised ATC was shut 9-9:30 but despite me arriving late (9:05) they stayed open and cleared me to land on 10. Then after taxying to the parking area I sat and watched the scheduled flight to Isle of Man board its passengers from the verandah with a cup of (free) coffee with no security nonsense either!
Landing fee was a reasonable 11.40 and they even have a resident cat (called belle) to keep the kids amused now!
Great briefing facilities with free wifi available and drinks too.
A really great experience of a flight to a nice airport!
Really hope this place thrives this summer!!
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 19:30
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Looks like the Atis is now out for Another two months. ATC say they are having "technical Issues". The airport is owned by BB. Need I say more...
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Old 1st Oct 2016, 18:26
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Looks like BB have put the airport up for sale.
https://www.facebook.com/EGNHAirport...type=3&theater
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Old 1st Oct 2016, 19:13
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The airport is part of a enterprise zone and surplus land is ripe for development. The airport will be sold for the value of that land and not the value of operating the airport.
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The airport is part of a enterprise zone and surplus land is ripe for development. The airport will be sold for the value of that land and not the value of operating the airport.
the dreaded "enterprise zone". Thousands of houses, plus retail and industrial parks coming to a venue near you ....
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Blackpool airport is back up for sale in shock move - Blackpool Gazette
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 20:43
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Blackpool - For Sale, Sold?, The Future?

Anyone willing to offer a view on what is happening with Blackpool Airport and its possible future ownership and operation?
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Old 29th Oct 2016, 02:47
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Have you googled it?

One things for sure there won't be any more commercial flights from the airport and the site of the demolished passenger terminal will be a new college.

Light aircraft and helicopters at the most if there is adequate fire cover.
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Old 29th Oct 2016, 06:51
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One things for sure there won't be any more commercial flights from the airport
Has anybody told Citywings?
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Has anybody told Citywings?
Read this.

A letter seen by the Gazette from Airport Manager Jay Gates has gone out to business partners to tell them that both the operating company Squires Gate Airport Operations Ltd and the airport estate itself will be offered for sale and to reassure them that it will be business as usual in the meantime.
"And to reassure them that it would be business as usual in the meantime"

IN THE MEANTIME, Meaning just that.
Blackpool airport is back up for sale in shock move - Blackpool Gazette
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