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Old 3rd Aug 2014, 16:41
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Another bar would be great as the current offering is woeful, and yes, I speak from personal experience.
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Old 4th Aug 2014, 09:44
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I couldn't agree more with asdf1234. The bar is dreadful. An office with a few tables and chairs. No draught beers, and NO atmosphere. Very disappointing.
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Old 4th Aug 2014, 11:12
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A Wetherspoons would be fantastic!!
Do you not think a Wetherspoon's might be a little bit optimistic?

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Old 4th Aug 2014, 12:56
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Deffo! Wetherspoon's (note name edit) work on a business model of being busy from when they open to when they close, even more so at airports because of higher rents.
They also expect a big food turnover which will effect the other outlets which I believe only do snacks.
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Well - I believe that Doncaster Sheffield has a Wetherspoons (at least according to their website it does). Is Robin Hood that much more busy / constant flight-wise than SEN?


Certainly the current Lakers Bar at SEN does lack a certain ambience!!!!


If not a bar then I wonder what the vacant units are to be? Shame they were not up and running for this Summers clientele.
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Old 4th Aug 2014, 23:38
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Fair point, I stand corrected.
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 07:01
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I reckon that DSA has 11 departures and 10 arrivals today, whereas SEN has 19 of each. Different aircraft sizes may affect the pax numbers, but Links Air puddle jumpers are included in the DSA figures.

So, Wetherspoons it is.

Or not.
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 18:54
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Oh well- perhaps a Southend Airport Wetherspoons is a non-starter? The airport does not seem to be at all forthcoming as to what the vacant units will be. Facebook and Twitter reveal nothing!! Oh well!!!!


Maybe the Doncaster Wetherspoons was started when the airport had a more constant traffic flow? Who knows?


It would still be jolly nice if someone from SEN could confirm what the vacant units are to be. Any chance??
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 19:28
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Maybe they haven't confirmed yet themselves? Do you know how many vacant units there are?
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 20:00
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No - I do not know for sure how many vacant units there are. But - according to the "Facilities" plan on the SEN website there would appear to be two - one either side of the new WCs on the lower airside level. I do recall from my last flight out that there appeared to be quite a large area that was boarded off. Perhaps there are now other plans for these areas??
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 20:25
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I suspect that depending on the occupant's requirements, the airport can put up partition walls to accommodate different floorspaces within the total floorspace available. Realistically there could be more than 2 units up for grabs, maybe 4 tops (?). A pub/restaurant for example would require a lot more space and therefore less units would be available overall.
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 21:36
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Half the total passenger count for the number of passengers using the airside facilities. Divide that by 364 and again by say 18 hours a day and you get the total number of potential passengers per hour that could use the retail outlets.

As the Southend passenger count increases then the new facilities become more desirable. I wonder how much rental income the airport is looking for?
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 07:21
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Jota Bae146-200

The 146 that Jota plan to operate (N880PA, ex G-OZRH) was registered G-SMLA yesterday so I assume it will shorty undertake an airtest from MSE with a view to its C of A being issued shortly afterwards.
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 17:36
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The airport will ask for a business plan with full financials from any prospective tenant and then work out a formula based upon turnover to determine the rent. They will insist upon a minimum rent and a share of your turnover above a certain limit. Where more than one tenant expresses interest they will ask for sealed envelopes stating the minimum rent the tenant is prepared to pay.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 14:13
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STOBART AIR

Listening in on the radio today, it seems that what used to call up as Arann is now using call-sign Stobart.
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Old 14th Aug 2014, 16:29
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I notice that Aer Lingus Regional have reported strong growth again in passenger numbers across their network. SEN-DUB was up 6%. Still a bit confusing as to why they are dropping the route, and Flybe taking it over with a reduced schedule.

LINK: Aer Lingus Regional carries record passenger numbers in July - Business - Business | Ireland's online business and management news service - Businessandleadership.com
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Old 14th Aug 2014, 16:53
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I have been advise re SEN-DUB...

All SEN-DUB flights from Nov-14 will be operated under the Flybe brand.
Aer Lingus will codeshare on the morning flights and connections from SEN to USA will be live and available to book on aerlingus.com from 25-Aug.
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Old 14th Aug 2014, 21:20
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Any explanation for that? I fail to understand what the point of replacing an airline that (also) franchises BE by BE proper is.... It would have made some sense to replace the EI brand by the BE brand but keep the flights with Stobart, but this...?
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Old 14th Aug 2014, 22:44
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Traditionally attempts at flights to the south east coast of England from Dublin have not faired well. Norwich, Manston and even Humberside never were popular. Clearly SEN has been the exception.

My suspicion is that the origin of most traffic on the route between Dublin and Southend originates in Southend. That coupled with the proportion of traffic going onwards to the US suggest that it could be more economical to market the route as Flybe with all other SEN routes.

May pave the way for BE to interline more with EI, feeding pax from CFN, INV, SOU, EXT and LCY through DUB to the US!
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Old 15th Aug 2014, 21:45
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Pax rolling percentages of london airports. Lhr 2.6% lgw 6.1% ltn 4.5% lcy 4.7% and the winner by a country mile is london southend airport with 29.4%,weldone to all at sen great news:
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