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Old 8th Jul 2017, 10:55
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Might well be as simple & obvious as Stobart (the airport operator in this instance) able to claim all these "extras" as destinations available from London Southend!!!..but with the usual caveats (already noted on here) hidden in the small print...It is probably no accident thus,why MAN was chosen as a new destination for this kudos (on presentations) & perhaps allowing Stobart to further "snow" the investor institutions....Just a thought.... Good Luck....SS
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 16:29
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Of course Stobart chose MAN as a new destination from SEN partly in order to be able to offer "these "extras" as destinations available from London-Southend". That's exactly what they are: additional destinations, and some quite useful/viable ones at that, to add to the attractiveness of SEN to travellers.


SOU do exactly the same so do you suggest there's some sort of trickery at play there as well?


Good Luck ... EXF
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 16:39
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Nope....EXF...not convinced.....at all....SS
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 16:56
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EXF - don't feed the troll!
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 17:29
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And there was me beginning to think "southside bobby" and "HarryWayfarer" were the same person!
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 17:39
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I don't think it is too important to get excited/upset about the connections at MAN or GLA with Flybe. If travellers find something useful to them, let them use it. In my crystal ball, I can see that if Stobart bought out Flybe it would add two or three routes transferred to SEN, mainly to boost the pax figures, and for no other reason. The two additional airlines to be announced before September? Well, Powdair has already been confirmed, and the other I have already mentioned in earlier discussions because the airline had visited management twice. Interested but not commited until the airport improvements are completed. As for another 2 operators for next year, best left to see if anything actually happens.
Still no indications from the local eyes as to how the loads are on the new routes are doing. Must wait for the CAA monthly stats to be published. As for a 4th Airbus from EZY for 2018, still no news on that, but Stobart seem confident they can reach their target 2.5 million by 2019.
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 17:55
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SWBKCB.....Please explain why I am a troll when I say I am hardly convinced the likes of ZRH/TLS/GVA are worthy connections from SEN via MAN with an hour`s sector first in exactly the opposite direction!!..& without the palaver of the then connection or maybe two!! ....beats me......... Believe it or not there are directs available from the south.Your comment is unworthy of you..just saying.......Good luck...SS
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 18:04
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Hate myself for saying it, but I do agree with what SS said in his post #4983. But, apart from inviting a few jibes, is there any harm in what Stobart / Flybe are doing?
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 18:20
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What exactly is it you think they are doing? Offering connections is probably just an algorithm in the booking engine, so little if any cost involved.

From a quick look I can't actually see that they are being promoted yet or offered as "new destinations" from SEN
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 19:45
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Just curious. Would there be a market for a through ticket from SEN to EDI via MAN, for a person travelling to MAN for one meeting (airport hotels always have meeting rooms) before continuing later to EDI?
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 20:27
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Browsing through the forum from time to time, it's always interesting that this particular thread about a the fortunes of a regional airport at a small English seaside town generates so many comments!
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 20:46
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Southend is hardly a SMALL English seaside town. Not sure of the current figure, but some time ago the population was in excess of 170,000. Not enormous, but by no means small.

Edit: Latest available figure 179,800
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 20:57
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
10m is a brain fart episode.

5m potentially but surrounding access and conjestion mitigation measures are a critical prerequisite that council need to address in a proactive not reactive manner.
Credit where credit is due - the CEO is a marketing motormouth. He was also selling the fact that Boeing 737-800s cannot use the airport as a big bonus, not a disadvantage (as he was insinuating - without mentioning it - that this keeps Ryanair out). Could backfire though, given that LCC airlines are sort of growing out of the 150 seater market and are moving into the 200-220 seater market - aircraft which SEN will not be able to accommodate.
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 23:30
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I don't see the value in putting ridiculous connections on the website; if people come across one of them first they'll just assume they're all ridiculous and not bother looking at routes where they might offer sensible options!

(I had a look at Southend - Amsterdam on both the FlyBe website and the DB journey planner. DB offers a selection of 6h30m journeys (or 6h52 straight to Amsterdam Centraal), but one of the flights the FlyBe website offers is 7h45m. At the right time of day you could drive it faster than FlyBe's flight, though you'd only get to see Belgium and not Manchester & Southampton airports).
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 06:09
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SWBKCB.....Please explain why I am a troll when I say I am hardly convinced the likes of ZRH/TLS/GVA are worthy connections from SEN via MAN with an hour`s sector first in exactly the opposite direction!!..
But you didn't, you've changed your tune as what you said was

Might well be as simple & obvious as Stobart (the airport operator in this instance) able to claim all these "extras" as destinations available from London Southend!!!..
The two things are completely different - your original comment implied that the connections from SEN where being put in the flyBe booking engine so they could be claimed as NEW destinations by Stobart to influence investors.

Suggesting that somebody might do something when they haven't in an attempt to deceive looks like trolling to me.
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 06:39
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I see a couple of easyJet flights cancelled this morning, anybody any idea why?
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 07:03
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Credit where credit is due - the CEO is a marketing motormouth. He was also selling the fact that Boeing 737-800s cannot use the airport as a big bonus, not a disadvantage
Why stop there, he could also mention as well as Southend's short and narrow runway, its CAT 1 ILS, its limited opening hours and no public transport for its peak travel periods. All things that will no doubt attract airlines to the airport.
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 07:27
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I believe one aircraft went tech in IBZ last night so another SEN-based aircraft was sent down to bring the pax back this morning. Therefore two flights cx this morning as one aircraft tech in IBZ and another allocated to the 'rescue' flight. That's very tough on the would-be AGP and MJV pax this morning.
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 07:39
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One for Southside Bobby primarily, who flies STN to Bangkok or Dubai? It's just they're listed on the STN destinations page.
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 07:56
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compton3bravo

I believe one aircraft went tech in IBZ last night so another SEN-based aircraft was sent down to bring the pax back this morning. Therefore two flights cx this morning as one aircraft tech in IBZ and another allocated to the 'rescue' flight. That's very tough on the would-be AGP and MJV pax this morning.
If only it was two! The cancelled list has just got longer with the afternoon being affected
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