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Old 27th Aug 2015, 09:09
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According to BBC this morning, air shows across the country are going ahead this weekend with the exception of Durham.

Given there was so little flying, I can't help but think this is a convenient reason to cancel. Only yesterday I saw the Red Arrows perform brilliantly and the Dartmouth event just around the corner from me on holiday goes ahead with a full plan this weekend.

Such a shame. It may not be DTVA that is responsible, but DTVA have an uncanny knack of partnering with organisations that fail to deliver....

Let's hope it's 3rd time lucky for next year!
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 09:54
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Someone might be able to explain better about the first air show attempt last year!
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 11:37
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Air Show cancellation

Nothing those without blinkers didn't expect.
Social media having a field day and as usual DTV is associated with bad press.
Lots of official excuses being rolled out..but the real truth is ?

From all reports,organisation was poor,aircraft on show was poor,ticket sales poor,prices too high and sponsors too few..look forward to next years event.
I feel it's disingenuous and rather sad to blame it all on the CAA and new guidelines.

Someone said there are 11 other airshows planned for the weekend...that must tell us something?
Maybe Sunderland have got it right?
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 12:27
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The will was there, Skylive would have seen the event through and it would probably have been a very good day, but I've heard the local authorities stepped in as there wasn't suitable traffic/emergency management in place, I hear the emergency services were raising concerns...could of course be wrong but this is much more believable, given they blamed in part a restricted Vulcan display when just the day before the Vulcan announced they were unaffected by the restrictions!!!
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 09:49
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Some interesting quotes in the press this week.

1). Organisers took decision with the airport, so not an entirely Skylive decision.
2). Good plans to bring it back next year bigger and better with some big stars, maybe the red arrows and BofB.

The latter shows great aspiration and potential but also highlights that this year had not gone to plan and the Shoreham accident became a convenient excuse to cut losses and try again.

If they do it, then credit to them and people will forget the past but certainly question marks have to be raised about the story so far.

And as for DTVA, they are yet again associated with negative press and yet again what has gone wrong is not their fault - essentially the tag line to the airport and its history over the last 10 years....
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 10:35
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As much as it looks like an excuse, the Shoreham tragedy is a genuine reason as opposed to Skylive exploiting a tragedy as a convenient excuse, they are genuinely devastated. Though I suspect Robert may also be right as well.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 16:05
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The Skydive St George's "Battle of Britain Boogie" also cancelled, but planning to move into larger premises.

Boogie | Skydive St George
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 16:43
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Skylive staff may be genuinely upset but they are significantly better off than if they had gone ahead with that poorly organised and poorly advertised event.
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Question review

Just looking around other venues..most,if not all air shows have gone ahead recently.The Swedes even turned up with 4 aircraft at Prestwick!!
Methinks a lot of previous doubter posts are correct..as expected ,the usual DTV shambles and bad press as expected.

Anyway to move on..Peel announced 25 Mil. Aviation Investment into Liverpool.I really would like to know exactly how much is being 'pumped' into here? And more to the point how much is actually upfront aviation investment??
Sorry CO if this sound a little negative!!
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Old 5th Sep 2015, 21:52
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Last one out turn the lights off.

Highwide, I think you'll find a lot of people have given up hoping for holiday flights ever flying out of Teesside again.
Peel will slowly run it down and and it will go the same way as Sheffield.
No point wondering about the master plan or plans. The money men have won this one. Last one out turn the lights out.
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Old 5th Sep 2015, 22:32
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You two obviously haven't been up to the airport the last six months and seen what Peel have been spending their money on!
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 05:40
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Understand there's been some site clearance, so what else (particularly aviation related)?
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 07:16
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At the moment it just seems to be site clearance but expensive clearance as they are removing any concrete, metal footings from the old hangar 5 and levelling the ground. I presume they will also remove the remains of hangar 4 flooring and footings.
Aviation wise there has never been as many resident light aircraft as there are now, there would possibly be more if there was more hangar space available.
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 09:27
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Site clearance

Site clearance is what Peel do best.
Does anyone really think the DTV airport can stay afloat on light a/c income?
How much is the place losing per year now?
The land will be used for other things, but it won't benefit the public.

The fact that Peel are moving into logistics and warehousing may be what they have had in mind for a long time. The houses will be just the icing on the cake for the billionaire chap.

It always gives me a chuckle to see the local 'lodge' chap spokesperson who likes the pies spouting about this and that on tv. Rumour has it that its losing a lot of money.
Time will tell and they will blame it on government taxes, or financial markets when it shuts the doors, but will be sitting on 250 acres of prime land.
How many staff are left at DTV?
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 10:11
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Like all companies the accounts are on line.
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If my transcription skills without my glasses worked OK, The operating losses for 2104 were (£4,616,518) compared with 2013 losses (£3,622,874)
The full accounts of any business always make interesting reading.
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 10:54
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blackbeard1, how big are the losses for the other northern airfields?


Site clearance is better than abandonment and decay in my mind.
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 11:31
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Your question is unfortunately largely irrelevant. "Durham Tees Valley Airport Limited" is actually part of a larger Peel group of companies, as such the extent of the loss is open to significant manipulation through transfer pricing & management costs & recharges.

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Old 6th Sep 2015, 14:13
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I am well aware of Mr Whittaker's empire, for those of you who are not, can I recommended reading this article from the Independent written in 2013. "The biggest company you've never heard of: Lifting the lid on the Peel Group"
The biggest company you've never heard of: Lifting the lid on Peel Group - the property firm owned by reclusive tax exile John Whittaker - Home News - UK - The Independent


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Old 11th Sep 2015, 06:38
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Something to type about

From the local rag:


'Secret' part of scheme to save Durham Tees Valley airport is still secret (From Darlington and Stockton Times)
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 19:19
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I think Peel-owned DSA posted similar losses. The business plan proposed by Peel is similar to that being developed at DSA too
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