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Old 7th Aug 2017, 08:12
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Oh well it's news..so that's goodbye to the eastern base? Or will ,as probable just be a rebranding of The Jetstream route? Norwich...will be an interesting route..unless of course it's just confirmation of the Sunday only schedule?
We will see..
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 09:17
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Is there the demand for both on ABZ route
This could end badly if T3 pull out and loganair can't make money on it
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 09:43
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All speculation but gut feeling is they will take over the route and one of the rotations will include Norwich?
Hope the figures improve though as they are nothing short of disastrous over the last few months.
At least prices should be cheaper than Eastern!!
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 10:18
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Probably a power game to create some leverage. If you play in our forecourt, we will play in your's - and let's see who has the deeper pockets.
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 11:07
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Looks like 1 Saab 340 based from 16th October operating 3x/4x Aberdeen and 1x Norwich
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 14:23
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Durham Tees Valley Airport: Introduction of new airline will provide a 'shot in the arm' - Gazette Live

Bit of a double-edged sword, LOG and Eastern/Flybe clearly intent on going head to head - can't see them both succeeding and MME might end up being collateral damage.

Being more positive, interesting comment from the Loganair managing director in the link above:

“We’re looking forward to beginning a long and successful working relationship with Durham Tees Valley Airport and intend to announce further service developments at DTVA in the coming months.”
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 14:47
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Going back to the early 70s Air Anglia had a NWI-MME-ABZ service using F27s I believe. Plus ca change and all that.
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 15:13
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4 flights per week not 3 DAILY !!
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 15:59
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Highwide...cheer up! It's good news, end of.
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 16:25
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any holiday charters still go from MME? saw Naples on the arrivals board for Sunday
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 16:31
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Only ad-hoc by Newmarket and Omega.
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 16:40
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ah OK ta

when i worked for BMA at LHR our DC9's used to go MME-Rimini Lourdes Pisa (sometimes) and Palma night flights over the summer weekend

take off was after the BD340 arrived back at MME from LHR and back in about 0600 or so in time for the first morning flight down to LHR

I was D/O at LHR 1977-1985
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 17:42
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There seems to be some confusion with the frequency of the new Aberdeen flight, Look North reporting 3x weekly and HH6702 is reporting 4x weekly in his post above, but the Loganair booking engine is definitely giving me the option of three flights per day Monday through Thursday and two on a Friday
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 17:45
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Anything else would not make sense, particularly not justify basing an aircraft at MME.
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 18:00
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Originally Posted by Robert-Ryan View Post
There seems to be some confusion with the frequency of the new Aberdeen flight, Look North reporting 3x weekly and HH6702 is reporting 4x weekly in his post above, but the Loganair booking engine is definitely giving me the option of three flights per day Monday through Thursday and two on a Friday
http://www.durhamteesvalleyairport.c...valley-airport

The airports press release gives days and times. Loganair seem to have got it right...
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 18:52
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No more bulls..t, I'm sorry I'm not sure what the excitement is all about?

Eastern will be gone in a blink and the airport back to square one.

They have no crews or aircraft anyway so nite nite..l

The Aberdeen figures are terrible..even Aberdeen figures are dodgy..I really can't see why you guys are excited about this amazing news.

As for the Norwich....give you 100 passengers per week?
Any comments from PEEL, how does this effect their master plan?
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 19:08
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Any comments from PEEL, how does this effect their master plan?
Quotes below are from the airports press release.

The announcement was welcomed by Durham Tees Valley Chief Executive Steve Gill as a ‘real shot in the arm for the airport—and very good news for the region’s business community.’

Explained Mr Gill: “We are delighted that Loganair has shown such confidence in Durham Tees Valley, especially at such an important point in the airline’s development as it prepares to operate flights in its own right from next month after 24 years of operating under franchise agreements with other carriers.”

“We certainly hope that this initial announcement of the new services to Norwich and Aberdeen marks that start of a successful—and growing—partnership with Loganair, who have chosen Durham Tees Valley for the launch of their operations in the North East.”

Added Chris Harcombe, Head of Aviation Development at Peel Airports “Attracting a well-established airline such as Loganair is exactly in line with the strategy we set out in the business plan for Durham Tees Valley to concentrate on supporting and developing services focussed on the business community.”

“The links between our region and the Aberdeen area are, of course, well established and there is a great deal of business synergy with Norwich. Having direct air links to both is of real benefit for our local firms providing goods, services and expertise in these fields.”
Yes, just a tiny step, and yes it seems that DTVA might be just part of the bigger Loganair vs. Flybe flight, but
  1. It's a new operator
  2. It's a new destination
  3. It's Peel delivering on the 'business orientated' element of the Masterplan
  4. There's the possibility of more routes
One other point - LOG to codeshare with BA? so maybe BA flight numbers on the DTVA departure board? Just look at the fusss made at far bigger airports about a few Cityflyer weekend charters
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 19:15
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Even if Eastern did leave I think longer term Loganair would be a more sustainable option. You get a daily service to Norwich for starters.

I wouldn't get too excited about other routes though, there isn't much they could/would do. Dublin and Belfast are in their network, but their fares would be too high...the punters would simply drive elsewhere and frequency is probably better at Newcastle etc anyway.
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 20:25
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I wouldn't get too excited about other routes
With two (now three!), shouldn't MME be getting excited about the prospect of any new routes? Gaining them is better than losing them.

And to be fair to Peel (it does happen!), they did say they would be targeting business routes rather than sun routes (yes, probably the art of the possible,,,)
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Old 7th Aug 2017, 20:29
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
No more bulls..t, I'm sorry I'm not sure what the excitement is all about?

Eastern will be gone in a blink and the airport back to square one.

They have no crews or aircraft anyway so nite nite..l

The Aberdeen figures are terrible..even Aberdeen figures are dodgy..I really can't see why you guys are excited about this amazing news.

As for the Norwich....give you 100 passengers per week?
Any comments from PEEL, how does this effect their master plan?
Do you seriously believe it is a decision by Loganair because they think that market is great? From their perspective, they are trying to put a nail into Eastern's coffin to drive them off the intra-Scottish routes. I am pretty sure we will see sooner than later Eastern retreating from those new Scottish routes and Loganair from MME as a result of some clandestine behind-closed-doors negotiations.
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