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Old 27th Dec 2016, 13:39
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Other way round...the paradroppers were constantly having to wait / circle / abandon due to the other operators, that's why they moved to Peterlee..




"and so they should!" but lets be honest here.. 'they should have never come in the first place'....
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 14:01
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I cannot agree with "they should have never come in the first place", these things need to be tried...but yes at the end of the day we will be better off without them.
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 14:15
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Great..thread up and running to its normal standards!! Well done guys!!

As always though..pity no talk about positive news,developments or a sustainable future?
Roll on 2017��
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 14:17
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It may well be uncomfortable for some to accept the truth, but there are airports up and down the UK that are not needed. Not every town or city deserves one. People's livelihoods depend upon these places but you can't keep flogging a dead horse.
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 21:15
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An ignorant point of view
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 21:59
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Must be the time in Moes bar affecting him.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 04:14
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Nothing ignorant about it.
People want to hang on to something for sentimental reasons not because of a real business case. It may well be that the airport can generate business from other operations but its passenger side is not looking good. Prestwick and Blackpool are two others. I don't believe anyone is demanding these close down completely but a reality check is required.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 10:26
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I don't get why people consider Prestwick in trouble all the time? They have a sizeable Ryanair base on the passenger side, a sizeable cargo operation and the US mil are frequent users.

That said I've partially answered my own question as our Eastern flight alone will generate more income than what a Ryanair contract will for them.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 11:05
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Do they pay the bills though, I suspect no.
Prestwick was a vanity thing by the Scottish government which looks a very poor decision
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 11:13
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don't get why people consider Prestwick in trouble all the time?
Cos they don't make a profit and have to be supported by loans from the Scottish Government that they will struggle to re-pay with their current operating model.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 11:30
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Originally Posted by Homo Simpson
It may well be uncomfortable for some to accept the truth, but there are airports up and down the UK that are not needed. Not every town or city deserves one. People's livelihoods depend upon these places but you can't keep flogging a dead horse.
Not in the slightest bit ignorant, just, in these days of private / profit driven ownership a hard fact of life.

To the list of non-viable commercial airports you could probably add Coventry and Humberside.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 11:46
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Prestwick is being kept alive purely for the SNP to look like they are the good guys. It's a vanity project nothing more. If it can't succeed then it should be left alone and let the bits that can work do so.
DTV with 140K passengers a year and zip cargo is failing. As a commercial airport it is simply not needed but for other types of operation then get someone in that knows what they are doing.

That is business reality. Truth is that it would be more beneficial to the area to have affordable housing and/or a business park built on it.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 15:20
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Originally Posted by Homo Simpson
Prestwick is being kept alive purely for the SNP to look like they are the good guys. It's a vanity project nothing more. If it can't succeed then it should be left alone and let the bits that can work do so.
DTV with 140K passengers a year and zip cargo is failing. As a commercial airport it is simply not needed but for other types of operation then get someone in that knows what they are doing.

That is business reality. Truth is that it would be more beneficial to the area to have affordable housing and/or a business park built on it.
That's a bit better...there will ALWAYS be a need for our airport and other similar ones in some way shape or form
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 16:28
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With respect there will not always be a need for DTV or some others.
It may well be able to carve out some business in certain areas but as a commercial operation its as good as dead.
People and especially businesses have to be pragmatic about this.
140K per year is beyond bad.
If Peel have any business sense then turn it into housing/business park or try to specialise in non commercial aviation side of things.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 18:02
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Airports such as DTVA serve a very important purpose - those 140K give them a USP over other brownfield sites, and come in very handy when trying to get planning permission out of planning authorities, etc.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 20:32
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I disagree, DTVA still has a role to play in aviation
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 20:46
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I didn't say it didn't - a brownfield site with an active runway and "global connectivity" is more valuable than any old brownfield site, huge leverage in planning negotiations. There's no business sense in closing the airfield to turn it into housing/business park, unless the losses are unsustainable.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 20:56
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Homo does have a point.

Robert expand on DTVA roll in aviation. I see it's present future simular to Coventry. Mainly GA with a bit of commercial that does not involve self loading cargo.

But even Coventry's future is looking iffy. No room in this business for sentiment. If it does not pay then the only option is closure. Manston and Sheffield are two cases where not through lack of trying, but they could not make it pay.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 21:22
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SWBKCB I agree 100% my comment was aimed at Homo.

Turboprop I think the KLM service is indispensable to the local economy and a strong performing route therefore enough on it's own to justify the terminal, and even if it was not, I would welcome a Biggin Hill of the north with open arms for which there is sufficient potential
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 22:02
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On the flip side there isn't much vacant property on the airfield.
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