DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 6
Who knows the answers.
It does throw up another scenario though...if the housing is knocked back or even delayed due to planning objections..how much appetite do Peel have for a fight? Will they actually want to put their hands in their pocket and show us the colour of their money?
Or as the realists on this thread( and locals I speak to)think,they will cut and run.
There is no doubt the councils want and need an airport..maybe offer to buy back at a cut rate and then develop over time?
It does throw up another scenario though...if the housing is knocked back or even delayed due to planning objections..how much appetite do Peel have for a fight? Will they actually want to put their hands in their pocket and show us the colour of their money?
Or as the realists on this thread( and locals I speak to)think,they will cut and run.
There is no doubt the councils want and need an airport..maybe offer to buy back at a cut rate and then develop over time?
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With KLM's last Fokker 70 being retired on 29/10/17, MME should be getting the new E-175's from 30th October 2017. I'm not sure if any of them will be showing up before then, but they may do. Durham Tees Valley is listed as one of the last destinations based on the schedule for 29/10/17.
Taken from Airlineroute, routesonline:
"Based on preliminary schedule filing for summer 2017 and winter 2017/18 season, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines has temporary filed last Fokker 70 operation on 29OCT17.
As of 06NOV16, KLM’s Fokker 70 operation on 29OCT17 as follow.
Basel/Mulhouse – Amsterdam
Bremen – Amsterdam
Brussels – Amsterdam
Durham Tees Valley – Amsterdam
Dusseldorf – Amsterdam
Frankfurt – Amsterdam
Hanover – Amsterdam
Humberside – Amsterdam
Norwich – Amsterdam
The Fokker 70 aircraft is operated by KLMcityhopper. Schedule listing on/after 29OCT17 displays all KLMcityhopper service operated by Embraer E175/190 aircraft. Last Fokker 70 operation remains subject to change."
Taken from Airlineroute, routesonline:
"Based on preliminary schedule filing for summer 2017 and winter 2017/18 season, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines has temporary filed last Fokker 70 operation on 29OCT17.
As of 06NOV16, KLM’s Fokker 70 operation on 29OCT17 as follow.
Basel/Mulhouse – Amsterdam
Bremen – Amsterdam
Brussels – Amsterdam
Durham Tees Valley – Amsterdam
Dusseldorf – Amsterdam
Frankfurt – Amsterdam
Hanover – Amsterdam
Humberside – Amsterdam
Norwich – Amsterdam
The Fokker 70 aircraft is operated by KLMcityhopper. Schedule listing on/after 29OCT17 displays all KLMcityhopper service operated by Embraer E175/190 aircraft. Last Fokker 70 operation remains subject to change."
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With the permanent changes to SRA and lack of full time fire cover, have there been more staff cuts?
NATS: Preflight information services
EGNV - DURHAM TEES VALLEY
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Q) EGTT/QPICH/I/NBO/A/000/999/5431N00126W005
REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO 1NM SRA FOR RWY 05/23
UK AIP EGNV AD 2.24, AD 2-EGNV-8-3 AND AD 2-EGNV-8-7 REFER
C4110/16
FROM: 18 AUG 2016 13:09 TO: PERM
+
Q) EGTT/QOBCE/IV/M/AE/000/007/5439N00120W001
OBST WINDFARM/MAST WI 1NM 543917N 0011933W (RED GAP MOOR,
HARTLEPOOL). UP TO 415FT AGL/665FT AMSL. FOR INFO CONTACT 0207 566
8602 OR 07587 550428. ON EXPIRY OF THIS NOTAM DETAILS WILL BE
INCLUDED IN THE UK AIP ENR 5.4 16-11-0022/AS4
C4980/16
FROM: 01 NOV 2016 00:01 TO: 30 JAN 2017 23:59
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Q) EGTT/QFFCH/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5431N00126W005
FIRE AND RESCUE CAT WILL BE AS PER AIP ENTRY EXCEPT FOR:
WED
1120-1555 CAT 3
1725-2050 CAT 4
THU
0625-0920 CAT 4
1055-1555 CAT 4
1725-2050 CAT 4
FRI
0625-0920 CAT 4
1050-1555 CAT 4
1725-2050 CAT 4
SAT
0715-0920 CAT 4
1050-2050 CAT 4
SUN
0625-0920 CAT 4
1050-1635 CAT 4
1635-2050 CAT 5
UP TO FIRE CAT 9 AVBL BY PRIOR ARRANGEMENT. SHORT TERM REDUCTIONS OF
CAT MAY OCCUR AT TIMES WHICH WILL NOT AFFECT SCHEDULED TRAFFIC.
DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT IS PPR ONLY.
C5724/16
FROM: 09 NOV 2016 11:20 TO: 13 NOV 2016 20:50
NATS: Preflight information services
EGNV - DURHAM TEES VALLEY
+
Q) EGTT/QPICH/I/NBO/A/000/999/5431N00126W005
REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO 1NM SRA FOR RWY 05/23
UK AIP EGNV AD 2.24, AD 2-EGNV-8-3 AND AD 2-EGNV-8-7 REFER
C4110/16
FROM: 18 AUG 2016 13:09 TO: PERM
+
Q) EGTT/QOBCE/IV/M/AE/000/007/5439N00120W001
OBST WINDFARM/MAST WI 1NM 543917N 0011933W (RED GAP MOOR,
HARTLEPOOL). UP TO 415FT AGL/665FT AMSL. FOR INFO CONTACT 0207 566
8602 OR 07587 550428. ON EXPIRY OF THIS NOTAM DETAILS WILL BE
INCLUDED IN THE UK AIP ENR 5.4 16-11-0022/AS4
C4980/16
FROM: 01 NOV 2016 00:01 TO: 30 JAN 2017 23:59
+
Q) EGTT/QFFCH/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5431N00126W005
FIRE AND RESCUE CAT WILL BE AS PER AIP ENTRY EXCEPT FOR:
WED
1120-1555 CAT 3
1725-2050 CAT 4
THU
0625-0920 CAT 4
1055-1555 CAT 4
1725-2050 CAT 4
FRI
0625-0920 CAT 4
1050-1555 CAT 4
1725-2050 CAT 4
SAT
0715-0920 CAT 4
1050-2050 CAT 4
SUN
0625-0920 CAT 4
1050-1635 CAT 4
1635-2050 CAT 5
UP TO FIRE CAT 9 AVBL BY PRIOR ARRANGEMENT. SHORT TERM REDUCTIONS OF
CAT MAY OCCUR AT TIMES WHICH WILL NOT AFFECT SCHEDULED TRAFFIC.
DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT IS PPR ONLY.
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FROM: 09 NOV 2016 11:20 TO: 13 NOV 2016 20:50
Beafer, what you have dug up there is a normal working week, no cut backs just standard practice for the past numerous years. Fire CAT 9 is 747 and don't forget we had a week of 747F visits just this time last year.
Another none story from the news hound! What the first Q is someone more qualified might come along and enlighten us all.
Another none story from the news hound! What the first Q is someone more qualified might come along and enlighten us all.
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Beafer, what you have dug up there is a normal working week, no cut backs just standard practice for the past numerous years. Fire CAT 9 is 747 and don't forget we had a week of 747F visits just this time last year.
Another none story from the news hound! What the first Q is someone more qualified might come along and enlighten us all.
Another none story from the news hound! What the first Q is someone more qualified might come along and enlighten us all.
That's actually a direction for removal of approach charts designating 1nm RTR, now back to 2nm. And no I don't know wether it was initially 1nm or a simple mis classification.
Service degrade..but not just here...
No big deal..my understanding is that a one mile SRA needs a dedicated controller who can do no other function. If DTV only has 2 controllers on duty..which is the norm now..then that function couldn't be carried out as there would be no other radar man available for all the other traffic?
I think a lot of uk airports are doing this..and yes its cost cutting,but the norm now ,less service for the customer!!
I think a lot of uk airports are doing this..and yes its cost cutting,but the norm now ,less service for the customer!!
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Regarding the Companies House legal documents.
The outstanding charges appear to mean the land is owned by Middlesbrough Council and its a type of mortgage on the Hotel land.
There are a lot of clauses if things don’t work out the way Peel want.
28 pages. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...S6vp6CLFlq57-o
The other charge relates to a couple who own the Oak Tree land.
3 pages. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...PrvCZy0QIrvI-0
Unless I am mistaken, Peel do not own all of the land which they are asking to build on. The land ownership plot thickens.
Wonder why the other councils didn't hang on to the freehold like Middlesbrough and the couple mentioned?
It may become clear when the airport sale documents are made public.
Still no explanation why councillor Walsh jumped ship after 4 months on the DTV board?
The outstanding charges appear to mean the land is owned by Middlesbrough Council and its a type of mortgage on the Hotel land.
There are a lot of clauses if things don’t work out the way Peel want.
28 pages. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...S6vp6CLFlq57-o
The other charge relates to a couple who own the Oak Tree land.
3 pages. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...PrvCZy0QIrvI-0
Unless I am mistaken, Peel do not own all of the land which they are asking to build on. The land ownership plot thickens.
Wonder why the other councils didn't hang on to the freehold like Middlesbrough and the couple mentioned?
It may become clear when the airport sale documents are made public.
Still no explanation why councillor Walsh jumped ship after 4 months on the DTV board?
Last edited by Beafer; 10th Nov 2016 at 21:25. Reason: Board of directors changes
Although the CAA stats website is all over the place at the moment...the following gives an idea.
Air Transport movements down 11.8%
Terminal passengers down 11.5%
Amsterdam down 6%
Aberdeen down 15%. This might change as Aberdeen figures not all in.
All year on year...
Air Transport movements down 11.8%
Terminal passengers down 11.5%
Amsterdam down 6%
Aberdeen down 15%. This might change as Aberdeen figures not all in.
All year on year...
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Thomas Cook G-NIKO has just landed from Manchester as Flight no. MT/TCX 4794. No other info and no schedules out. Anyone know purpose of this flight?
MT4794 has been BHX to Dalaman earlier this year
MT4794 has been BHX to Dalaman earlier this year