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Old 14th Oct 2016, 14:55
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I'm sorry, but skydiving is so incompatible with any other activity it should never have been at the airport to start with. It was a very large square peg trying to fit into a very small round hole.
Anyone with any form of aviation knowledge would know that a skydiving operation would never work at an airport with any form of other activity, let alone jet traffic and scheduled services. This is why most operate from their own airfields with very little else going on.
It was doomed to fail from the outset.
The point is they tried and both Skydive and the airport deserve credit for that
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 15:08
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It may indeed seem a bizarre post to anyone who was not directly affected by the awful mind numbing racket caused by Skydive St George as their aircraft climbed at high power settings in "our" overhead.Also as Toadpool says sky diving is a totally incompatable activity and was an ill concieved venture carried out over an International Airport. Just imagine this scenairo. "Durham Approach, Bandit 31, Hawk Aircraft 15 miles north east with suspected birdstrike, request immediate vectors to runway 23." Bandit 31, Durham Radar, sorry mate we have six parachute jumpers somewhere in the overhead, can you make it to Leeming" !!
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 15:37
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Well I for one slated the place when they turned up along with the so called Microlight men... so I'm over the moon they've now gone.. but shocking that an "international" Airport would want them here in the first place... I'm sure Newcastle and Leeds airport management must have been bad laughing... but we are dealing with peel, who no doubt see them as a step in the right direction... which if I'm honest, was another shocker from the long list of unbelievable decisions that this so called management have done over the last several years! so how RR can say they deserve credit... another CO here me thinks....
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 16:10
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Tough - it's an airport, aircraft make noise, end of.
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 16:49
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Tough - it's an airport, aircraft make noise, end of.
Which is the point that was made when the housing was announced and again when the Skydivers moved in...

The link about the distribution centre dates back to the link road announcement - has this been given permission yet?
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 17:18
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Mike Tee...they left as much for financial reasons as they did because of the growing airport traffic, therefore the argument could be made that they did in fact prove that skydiving and commercial aviation can work together. The Hawk you mention in your scenario would have got in, you're very naive if you think there wasn't procedures in place to deal with such a scenario. And as for the noise comment, as loud as the Airvan may be, I will resign from the airport to become a binman before that thing adversely affects anyone's quality of life...people love to complain that's the real problem.
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 17:39
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And what about the significant amount of pissed offness caused by careless skydivers crashing through your greenhouse.
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 18:36
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Anyone thinking parachuting is incompatible with other "normal" activities at an airfield should take a trip to Dunkeswell. All done on air-to-ground and with absolutely no restrictions on aircraft movements while parachutists are in the air. Absolutely gob-smacking when you first encounter it, and bizarre that it can possibly be allowed, but it is, and it obviously works because it's been going on for years.
But yes, Skydive's attempt at DTV was surely misguided in the first place - two parachute outfits within 20 miles of each other?
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 18:38
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Simplythebeast, please explain your comment, there were no incidents with any parachute activity at DTVA.
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 18:52
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Dear Robert -Ryan, my scenario, as you probably well know is just a made up description of a possible event, But to boldy say that the Hawk would have "got in" is indeed presumptive in the extreme.
As for your second comments surely you must be aware that all reasonable people have different levels of noise tolerance so to judge others by your own is indeed selfish and un-neighbourly.
And not all people love to complain. Many suffer in silence through the selfish and un-thoughtful actions of others.
Many of our neighbours dreaded the fine summer days when they could not enjoy their outdoor space because that noisy aircraft.
Thank goodness it's gone and does not return.
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 19:34
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RR interesting response..pray tell me how ATC would have handled that scenario..paras just jumped...12000 feet. Hawk calls emergency. 15 ne of airport for straight in.
Ermm. Can you para guys hang around for 10 mins please while this guy lands."I think not.
Luckily as stated it never happened..but for the grace of god.

A developing major player airport does not need this type of business.
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 19:41
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Well this got ridiculous fast. Mike, your comments are simply proof of enjoying a good whinge, they do not credit the positivity of the organisation. Furthermore the fact you dislike plane noise really makes me wonder why you are part of an aviation site and want more activity out of the little airport?

High wide, which "developing major player airport" are you talking about? As far as I was aware this was a DTV thread?
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Old 14th Oct 2016, 20:06
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James..sorry thought that was the real master plan..to get the airport back to former glories??

Anyway on another thread,
Chevron just announced a major deal with another failing airport..Prestwick..OOHH that PEEL could pull a rabbit out if the hat for DTV!
We live in hope with their master plan..
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Old 15th Oct 2016, 00:01
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Mike Tee, simple, who was there first you and your neighbours or the airport?
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Old 15th Oct 2016, 06:13
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I will resign from the airport to become a binman before that thing adversely affects anyone's quality of life
Mike Tee, simple, who was there first you and your neighbours or the airport?
There's a mistaken assumption here that all aircraft noise is the same - it isn't, type and frequency have a huge impact.
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Old 15th Oct 2016, 14:14
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
There's a mistaken assumption here that all aircraft noise is the same - it isn't, type and frequency have a huge impact.
Mike is just another NIMBY who bought a house near an airport then complains about it like its a surprise some aircraft make more noise than others,
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Old 15th Oct 2016, 14:32
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I've no idea if he is, but if your attitude is a reflection of that of the owners it doesn't bode well.
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Old 15th Oct 2016, 17:51
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Careful SWBKCB. Althoughas always you are completely correct,you talk a lot of sense,however..at the end of the day(and I am sorry CO)the airport per se is treading water.
No major investment,no new routes,no confidence and no positive DETAILS or deals.

This part of the NE needs all the help it can get and sorry guys....its just not getting it?
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Old 16th Oct 2016, 20:29
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Dear Robert -Ryan, my scenario, as you probably well know is just a made up description of a possible event, But to boldy say that the Hawk would have "got in" is indeed presumptive in the extreme.
As for your second comments surely you must be aware that all reasonable people have different levels of noise tolerance so to judge others by your own is indeed selfish and un-neighbourly.
And not all people love to complain. Many suffer in silence through the selfish and un-thoughtful actions of others.
Many of our neighbours dreaded the fine summer days when they could not enjoy their outdoor space because that noisy aircraft.
Thank goodness it's gone and does not return.
RR interesting response..pray tell me how ATC would have handled that scenario..paras just jumped...12000 feet. Hawk calls emergency. 15 ne of airport for straight in.
Ermm. Can you para guys hang around for 10 mins please while this guy lands."I think not.
Luckily as stated it never happened..but for the grace of god.
Regardless of what you may think of them, we're dealing with a major PLC and the governing body of one of the most heavily regulated industries there is, so there will have been some form of procedure in place to allow that Hawk to land, and there will have been contingencies for other scenarios as well.

There's a mistaken assumption here that all aircraft noise is the same - it isn't, type and frequency have a huge impact.
Let's say for arguments sake it's Coningsby with Typhoons going off on reheat every 5 minutes on a busy day...my previous comment still applies.
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 09:45
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Robert what on earth are you on about, save attempting to scrape up some credibility from your largley irrelevant earlier posts ?

This was I assumed a "reality based" site, though appreciated there are some who question Beafer's posts...................
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