DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 6
It's a weird thread at the moment..instead of infighting..how about joining together..talking the same talk..and getting the airport where we want it?
I think we all agree Peel..is probably not the way forward ?? So what do we actually do to get the airport up and running and where we want it to go?
Simplistic I know..but really..that's all that matters?
Deep down Beefer et all. Want the same thing....
I think we all agree Peel..is probably not the way forward ?? So what do we actually do to get the airport up and running and where we want it to go?
Simplistic I know..but really..that's all that matters?
Deep down Beefer et all. Want the same thing....
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Thanks for the votes of confidence P330/Lancelot, but my mind is made up. I'm fed up of being made to look like a t
t because I [quite rightly] cannot share what I hear. Hence why I am so keen on facts, yet as onion is quick to point out I don't deliver any myself - it's not that I don't have any, it's that they're often commercially confidential.
highwide...for a brief moment there with that first line you nearly had me eating humble pie and issuing you with a profuse apology, then I read the second paragraph. No we do not all agree on that, even if 90% of the forum takes your side, that doesn't mean 90% of people are correct.
Here's a question for you all, let's pretend for a moment Peel ceased trading tomorrow. Who would take-over? Your answers should meet the following criteria:- A) there would be in your honest opinion no question over their intentions for the airport site B) they must be financially responsible, i.e. they would need to continue to reduce the annual loss with a view to turning a profit some day (not someone blindly throwing money at the place and ultimately hemorrhaging cash a la Southend)
t because I [quite rightly] cannot share what I hear. Hence why I am so keen on facts, yet as onion is quick to point out I don't deliver any myself - it's not that I don't have any, it's that they're often commercially confidential.highwide...for a brief moment there with that first line you nearly had me eating humble pie and issuing you with a profuse apology, then I read the second paragraph. No we do not all agree on that, even if 90% of the forum takes your side, that doesn't mean 90% of people are correct.
Here's a question for you all, let's pretend for a moment Peel ceased trading tomorrow. Who would take-over? Your answers should meet the following criteria:- A) there would be in your honest opinion no question over their intentions for the airport site B) they must be financially responsible, i.e. they would need to continue to reduce the annual loss with a view to turning a profit some day (not someone blindly throwing money at the place and ultimately hemorrhaging cash a la Southend)
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Thanks for the votes of confidence P330/Lancelot, but my mind is made up. I'm fed up of being made to look like a tt because I [quite rightly] cannot share what I hear. Hence why I am so keen on facts, yet as onion is quick to point out I don't deliver any myself - it's not that I don't have any, it's that they're often commercially confidential.
highwide...for a brief moment there with that first line you nearly had me eating humble pie and issuing you with a profuse apology, then I read the second paragraph. No we do not all agree on that, even if 90% of the forum takes your side, that doesn't mean 90% of people are correct.
Here's a question for you all, let's pretend for a moment Peel ceased trading tomorrow. Who would take-over? Your answers should meet the following criteria:- A) there would be in your honest opinion no question over their intentions for the airport site B) they must be financially responsible, i.e. they would need to continue to reduce the annual loss with a view to turning a profit some day (not someone blindly throwing money at the place and ultimately hemorrhaging cash a la Southend)
t because I [quite rightly] cannot share what I hear. Hence why I am so keen on facts, yet as onion is quick to point out I don't deliver any myself - it's not that I don't have any, it's that they're often commercially confidential.highwide...for a brief moment there with that first line you nearly had me eating humble pie and issuing you with a profuse apology, then I read the second paragraph. No we do not all agree on that, even if 90% of the forum takes your side, that doesn't mean 90% of people are correct.
Here's a question for you all, let's pretend for a moment Peel ceased trading tomorrow. Who would take-over? Your answers should meet the following criteria:- A) there would be in your honest opinion no question over their intentions for the airport site B) they must be financially responsible, i.e. they would need to continue to reduce the annual loss with a view to turning a profit some day (not someone blindly throwing money at the place and ultimately hemorrhaging cash a la Southend)
MOD are shutting bases, not opening them...
The right answer is D) - any sensible person wouldn't be starting from this position, so it's a false question.
The way Thomson were treated/handled, effectively hung out the "closed" sign in terms of the airline industry - it all looks a bit odd - the only logic I can see is that the deal just agreed with Thomson was so bad that it was kicked into touch once somebody did the hard sums. Note also that all the comments from Peel are along the lines of "if somebody comes along we'll talk to them", not that they are out looking for business (this may just be the realistic approach that there isn't anything out there).
Also, although the MasterPlan seems to be heading in the right direction, in my view the inclusion of housing means that it will preclude anything but the most minor development of the current terminal site for airline services. Clearly Peel aren't that confident in the airports fortune's or they wouldn't need such pump priming funding for the rest of the development - as Beefer points out regularly, they aren't exactly short of a bob or two.
Expecting the southside industrial development to be occupied by largely aviation related activities also looks "optimistic", unless a tenuous link can be drawn to more general logistics businesses.
Maybe CO is right though, and there is a master plan behind the "MasterPlan" that nobody else has spotted and it will be alright on the night
The right answer is D) - any sensible person wouldn't be starting from this position, so it's a false question.
The way Thomson were treated/handled, effectively hung out the "closed" sign in terms of the airline industry - it all looks a bit odd - the only logic I can see is that the deal just agreed with Thomson was so bad that it was kicked into touch once somebody did the hard sums. Note also that all the comments from Peel are along the lines of "if somebody comes along we'll talk to them", not that they are out looking for business (this may just be the realistic approach that there isn't anything out there).
Also, although the MasterPlan seems to be heading in the right direction, in my view the inclusion of housing means that it will preclude anything but the most minor development of the current terminal site for airline services. Clearly Peel aren't that confident in the airports fortune's or they wouldn't need such pump priming funding for the rest of the development - as Beefer points out regularly, they aren't exactly short of a bob or two.
Expecting the southside industrial development to be occupied by largely aviation related activities also looks "optimistic", unless a tenuous link can be drawn to more general logistics businesses.
Maybe CO is right though, and there is a master plan behind the "MasterPlan" that nobody else has spotted and it will be alright on the night
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Hi all,
Touching base just to make sure all are still with us??
Two weeks since last post on the site...
Any news,?? Really please..any news...or without being shouted down,is the quick sand thickening!!
Touching base just to make sure all are still with us??
Two weeks since last post on the site...
Any news,?? Really please..any news...or without being shouted down,is the quick sand thickening!!
Hangar 1 doors are proceeding and they have bought some new/old snow clearing equipment, lets hope they don't need it!
Not on social media but heard the twa?ts against the airport are trying to object to any development plans.
Not on social media but heard the twa?ts against the airport are trying to object to any development plans.
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No idea financially, the GA businesses are frequently moving and upgrading into better and permanent structures, and DTFT seems to have no intention of shutting. At least I hope not or I'm screwed 😂
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Skylive said to be doubling next years flying display, DTFT are now PTT Aviation, Eden's ferocious expansion continues with the acquisition of a Grob Tutor and Skydive continue to be dogged by [hopefully false] rumours they're on the brink of bankruptcy.
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There's an unwritten rule in aviation regarding different stages of expansion at airports, I was wondering if anyone knew what it was? From memory it includes, or is similar to, the following:
A route to the capital city will trigger further growth
An on-site engineering firm will trigger a based aircraft
Achieving one million pax will trigger growth towards three million pax
A route to the capital city will trigger further growth
An on-site engineering firm will trigger a based aircraft
Achieving one million pax will trigger growth towards three million pax
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No sign of the boss in the photo.
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So Skydive have moved out to Peterlee, though it seems they're essentially just a booking agent for Peterlee Parachute Centre now. On the bright side they've cited the increased busyness of the airport as the reason!
Skydive moving out....can't make my mind up if this is good or not? Plenty of plaudits when they set up...now lost revenue,PR etc. Plus side is no disturbance for the new residents of the Goosepool community!
Reason given is increased movements making it impossible to operate?
I sat a few Saturdays and Sundays ago and they were the only operation over a few hours..bar a Cessna! Me smells a rat..maybe..?
Reason given is increased movements making it impossible to operate?
I sat a few Saturdays and Sundays ago and they were the only operation over a few hours..bar a Cessna! Me smells a rat..maybe..?
Watched skydive a few weeks ago they had to refuel before every drop flight with the airvan. Watched PC-6s and Cessna 208s before elsewhere and they just keep rolling up and keep the motor running no refuelling.